Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

Thu, 09 Mar 2006 05:25:48 -0800

Personhood?
The theolgy is hilarious, that some to this view is nothing but SAD!

Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hmm! Are you sure your recall does not concern someone else Lance?
I don't remember commenting on this and I certainly do not find it humorous.
Jesus did not come to put a bandaid on the "old man" which would be our flesh or "personhood"
The invitation is to become part of a "new creation" - old things pass away and all things become new.
 
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:02:08 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
1. I've no idea as we've never discussed it over the years we've come to know one another.
2. 'Personhood' Judy, has been discussed at great length.
As I recall, you found the observations concerning it ('personhood') both ridiculous and humorous.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 09, 2006 06:51
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

A couple of questions Lance;
1. Is John Wilson preterist like you and is "preterism" his gospel?
2. What is "personhood" and where would one get the idea that Jesus had come to redeem it?
 
John wrote:
She said she never felt the church was interested in who she was as a person.
I told her that the gospel is for now, not just for eternity; that Jesus came to redeem our personhood, not just save our souls for heaven
 
 
 
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 06:23:49 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 07, 2006 18:56
Subject: Open door on the journey

I am now in Singapore after a brief stop over in South Africa with Jonathan and Tracey.
 
My journey out has been interesting: First of all a one and a half hour delay in Toronto due to an ice and snow storm on the eastern seaboard. When I arrived in New York, I had to transfer from Le Guardia to JFK airport and my cab driver was a Christian, had something about “Jesus loves you” in the cab, so I opened a conversation and we had a great time of sharing, wishing each other God’s blessing as he dropped me off at the terminal for South African Airways.  Then in New York our departure was delayed two hours because of back-logged flights and waiting our turn for de-icing.  More than 20 hours later I arrived in Johannesberg via Senegal.  The heavy rain was almost horizontal; the radar auto landing facility wasn’t working so each flight was brought in “manually”, but we touched down safely. After a 20 minute wait at the gate for a bridge operator to show up, we finally disembarked and waited 50 minutes for our luggage.  A missed connection meant going for the next flight to Durban which in turn was delayed by almost 1½ hours and I reached Durban at midnight.  Jonathan was there to meet me and drive me the remaining hour to his home.
 
A friend of Tracey’s called Natalie was staying the weekend with them.  She had to be in Durban on Monday so offered to save Jonathan the round trip and drove me there for my flight to Singapore. She had grown up in a Christian home, gone to Bible school and then turned away from the Lord.  During the weekend, I sensed she wanted to talk to me alone.  She had been intrigued by Jonathan’s and my stories from Papua, and asked a lot about missionaries and culture—the usual stuff about imposing our beliefs and westernism on unsuspecting natives. But her tone changed.
 
On the way to Durban she opened the door for me to talk to her about the gospel in a more personal way. She told me early in our 1 hour drive that, she had been brought up in a Christian home but had questioned her beliefs and reached the point where she wasn’t sure whether she had totally rejected Christianity or was in middle ground.  I suggested that what she had rejected was “churchianity” and not Christ. This really opened the conversation, and I was able to talk about what Christ and the gospel means to me and my everyday life.  It seems this was the kind of thing she had been longing to hear, but had she only been hearing the “trust Jesus now and go to heaven later, and don’t go to hell” (like we heard on Sunday); but no one was making it relevant to daily living. She said the church is always talking about what you have to do, but not about being—about who you are and how you can be a complete person.  She said she never felt the church was interested in who she was as a person. I told her that the gospel is for now, not just for eternity; that Jesus came to redeem our personhood, not just save our souls for heaven. Obviously, when she dropped me off at Durban airport we could have gone on talking, but I sensed that her heart had been gripped and hope revived. 
 
As I sat waiting for my flight, and all through my 12 hours to Singapore, I could not stop thinking about that conversation and that this was one of those God-ordained moments that takes your breath away. I was praising God and praying for Natalie all the way.  Keep her in your prayers too.
 
Today, Gloria travels to London to spend time with her Dad.  I will speak at the Asia Cross Cultural training Institute today and tonight am meeting with a man from Myanmar who has seen the Yali Story. Tomorrow I will meet my Taoist friend Shankar.
 
Greetings,
John
 
 
 

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