Your criticism of DM on astrology is based upon a
faulty 'reading'. This faulty reading was exhibited by Kevin re:David's nuanced
take on pagan, cult/sect & Mormonism.Genuine conversations take place when
the view of the other person is equitably represented. Now, if ppl can't read TT
with understanding then what are we to make of their reading of the
Scriptures?
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Sent: March 11, 2006 06:35
Subject: [TruthTalk]
Astrology-Miller
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Sent: 3/10/2006 7:33:15 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Kinder Gentler
God would not call names - pagan ?????
Blaine has posted a number of times refering to Astrology.
What do you think of such?
cd: It goes much deeper than that Bro.
Kevin-David Miller was actually having Blaine do readings for Him-gave him
his birth dated and even comment on how actuate the reading were-have you
ever heard of the likes from a man of God? No different then what we saw in
front of the Catholic off Bourbon street remember? Seems that some believers
won't request God's prediction on the future or even ask Him they have
to inquire of spirits.Here is God's take on the
matter.
Isa 47:13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the
astrologers, the stargazers, the
monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come
upon thee.
Isa 47:14 Behold, they shall
be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves
from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at,
nor fire to
sit before it.
Isa 47:15 Thus shall they be
unto thee with whom thou hast labored, even thy merchants, from thy
youth: they shall wander every one to his quarter; none shall save thee.
Lev 19:31 Regard not them that have familiar
spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.
cd: Has David defiled himself ? My suggestion is for
repentence to be given-in sackcloth and ashes if need be-Serous
matter.
PA'GAN, n. [L. paganus, a peasant or countryman, from pagus, a
village.] A heathen; a Gentile; an idolater; one who
worships false gods. This word was originally applied to the inhabitants of
the country, who on the first propagation of the christian religion adhered
to the worship of false gods, or refused to receive christianity, after it
had been received by the inhabitants of the cities. In like manner, heathen
signifies an inhabitant of the heath or woods, and caffer, in Arabic,
signifies the inhabitant of a hut or cottage, and one that does not receive
the religion of Mohammed. Pagan is used to distinguish one from a Christian
and a Mohammedan.
PA'GAN, a. Heathen; heathenish; Gentile; noting a person who
worships false gods.
1. Pertaining to the worship of false
gods.
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
OK let me chime in I will restate it for Dean
DH's BELIEFS are Pagan! DAVEH: OK
Kevin....specifically in what way do draw that conclusion? What is
it that you think I believe that qualifies as a pagan belief? First,
you may want to define what you think pagan means so we will have a common
starting point.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
"You .. are a pagan" is
not the same as "Your beliefs are pagan"
For the sake of Lance (IYO)
OK let me chime in I will restate it for Dean
DH's BELIEFS are Pagan!
So does the BIBLE practice ADHOMS?
AND name names!
Sop let me get this straight Paul should NOT have said:
Acts 13 Elymas the sorcerer ...
PAUL SAYS: And said,
O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the
devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to
pervert the right ways of the Lord?
SHOULD BE
And said, O full of all subtilty beliefs and
all beliefs of mischief, thou child with beliefs of the
devil, thou believing against all righteousness, wilt
thou not cease believing to
pervert the right ways of the Lord? (what VERSION would this be? )
Since Paul was FULL of the Holy Ghost (IMO VS 9) when he said
this does that mean God called Elymas A DEVIL? Is God ADHOM? Did God
call him a PERVERT?
You DaveH are a
Pagan. DAVEH: I respectfully
disagree, Judge Dean. To me, your above comment is a blatant
ad-hom
Why is attacking your genuinely held beliefs an
attack on your person?
Seriously; can you
expound?
KD
DH can make the
point but let me chime in here, as well. "You .. are
a pagan" is not the same as "Your beliefs are
pagan>"
Those who have eyes, let them see,
Lord.
jd
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You DaveH are a
Pagan. DAVEH: ; I respectfully
disagree, Judge Dean. To me, your above comment is a
blatant ad-hom
Why is attacking your genuinely held beliefs an
attack on your person?
Seriously; can you expound?
I
called you a Mormon-to which you do not deny-You called me a
Christian to wit I did not deny. By doing so you separated the
two-and as receiving the first (Mormon) and tagging me with the
second(Christian) you have clearly showed yourself to be non
Christian
DAVEH:
What kind of convoluted logic is that, Judge Dean??? Does
any other TTer who understands what Dean said above, agree with
his explanation?
You DaveH are a
Pagan.
DAVEH:
I respectfully disagree, Judge Dean. To me, your above
comment is a blatant ad-hom, and I will request Judge Moore take
the appropriate action if you do not wish to
apologize.
he fact that you do not follow the
teaching of Jesus
Christ
DAVEH: Is
that coming from Judge Dean, or Judge Moore?
Get
over it the truth is not an Ad. Homein
attack
DAVEH:
Really?!?!?!?! Did you just make a new TT rule, Judge
Moore? Or was that Judge Dean expressing his unfounded
wishes?
state a
petition to impeach
me
DAVEH:
Seems to me that you are doing a good job of it on your
own.
I am
not Judge
Dean
DAVEH:
Then am I to assume that every t ime you pass judgment, you are
speaking as Judge Moore?
by your standards
isn't that Ad. Homein
attacking
DAVEH:
??? I thought we were playing the game by your
standards, Judge Dean! Hence.....Get over it the truth is not an Ad.
Homein attack
according to
you.
I
will have to g o to the
Moderator
DAVEH:
I've not had much luck with him, but I suspect he will listen to
you.
Are you implyin g Dean called you such
NAMES?
DAVEH: I'll let Judge Dean
answer that, Kevin..........I say/demand
again " Get the "Church of Jesus Christ" name off your temple
Pagan!!!
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