Re: [TruthTalk] Hell

[Lance Muir]

Rhetorical questions are intended to provoke thought rather than bring forth an answer. It may well be the case that some, having arrived at the definitive understanding on some matters, believe that any other understanding is itself a lie/deception. That having been said then, no further conversation is possible.  ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 15, 2006 07:47 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell No the conversation goes like this Men HATE the concept of a place of punishment for actual PEOPLE therefore they will do anything to overthrow that PLACE for the disobedient, refered to in scripture. Some alegorize, some remodel some avoid the thought altogether.   Why would Jesus use terminology such as repent - perish - destruction? And just what IYO is this "Punish with everlasting destruction" that He is going to personaly deliver? And just what is "the lake of Fire and Brimstone" and why are the Beast and the False Prohet (who were cast in previously) found still there, when the Devil is cast into it. If the proper understanding is that it is figurative of destruction? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kevin:As to the probability of any conversation, am I to understand your to be meaning something like this: 'The Scriptural teaching on Hell is clear beyond question. What I, along with most everyone I know believes concerning this matter is not open to discussion.' Thereafter you would cite the Scriptures pertaining to Hell, with the accompanying conviction that any differing interpretation of said Scriptures would reflect something negative concerning such an one?   .       ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 15, 2006 07:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell And Theologians revamp HELL before moving in Can't remember the author Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Suggested reading: 1. 'Dare we Hope "That all men be Saved"? with a short discourse on Hell - Hans Urs Von Balthasar 2. 'Four Views on Hell' Counterpoints series 3. 'The One Purpose of God' An answer to the Doctrine of Eternal Punishment' Jan Bonda 4. 'Hell': A Hard Look at a Hard Question - The Fate of the Unrighteous in New Testament Thought - David Powys 5. 'Hell Under Fire' - Modern Scholarship Reinvents Eternal Punishment - Various All texts, including sacred texts, are subject to interpretation. This (Hell) is but one more example. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TruthTalk" Sent: March 15, 2006 01:18 Subject: [TruthTalk] Hell > NOTE to all TTers: I had attempted to post several responses that were > rejected. Most of them were about the previous situation, which is now > less than pertinent, so there is no point in posting them. However, a > couple of them may be of interest. > > > DAVEH: As far as I've been able to discern, every instance that hell is > referred to in the Bible, it is in a figurative sense.....using the > burning trash dump as the only (with the exception of worms eating the > innards, and excruciating thirst) literal imagery to which the folks back > then could relate. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>> Actually, if we take it literal, can we not argue that hell is a >>> burning trash dump somewhere outside Jerusalem? jd >> > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dave Hansen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.langlitz.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > If you wish to receive > things I find interesting, > I maintain six email lists... > JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, > STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.