I DID discuss it with you off the list but, you did not respond, David.
What
we (most believers) have here is a failure to communicate with you
(your
sect). You cite Heb 11 as if it amounted to 'case closed'. When I
wrote you
privately David, I mentioned Hobart Freeman. Please look at his
legacy and,
take care. E. W. Kenyon's offspring are everywhere. Are you
one of them?
> Well, perhaps I should have kept that to myself, or shared privately
with
> a
> few others, but then, wouldn't that have tended toward
sectarianism? At
> least my daughter is healed, Lance. You
should be rejoicing with me, not
> fearing dangerous sect or cult.
The difference between us on this matter
> has to do with an
understanding of faith. Please read Heb. 11, and also
> consider
that I only speak of my personal belief and practice, which is
>
not
> the same as insisting others do the same. Lastly, you should
consider
> discussing issues like this one with me, perhaps off the
list, rather than
> making erroneous judgments about me.
>
>
David Miller
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
"Lance Muir" <
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> To:
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>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell
BoM
>
>
> I have read all of these passages numerous times.
Yes, I do read the
> Bible.
>
> Like it or not David, you
are co-leader of a sectarian group.
>
> You posted a family
anecdote on TT in the last week or so. What that
> reflected concerning
'your God' spoke volumes. If anyone should be
> fearful,
> David,
I'd say 'look in the mirror.
>
> At least our concern seems
mutual. :)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Miller"
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Sent: March 19, 2006 07:46
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell
BoM
>
>
>> Lance wrote:
>>> David:On warning
(wo)men re:'transgressing
>>> the commandments of God'.
Everyone
>>> (including you along with all of those
within
>>> your sect, David) 'transgresses the
commandments
>>> of God', David.
>>
>> You
appear to be using the word "sect" here rather loosely. I'm
>>
anti-sectarian, remember? I do not believe that denominations are of
>> God.
>> It was Dean's tendency toward sectarianism that
caused us difficulty
>> recently.
>>
>> That aside,
it is comments like this one about everyone transgressing the
>>
commandments of God that cause me deep concern for your own eternal
fate.
>> If you think that everyone transgresses the commandments of
God, then
>> that
>> means that you transgress the
commandments of God. Such indicates that
>> you
>> are
not be abiding in the doctrine of Christ. Have you not read
the
>> following passages?
>>
>> Matthew
19:17
>> (17) ... if thou wilt enter into life, keep the
commandments.
>>
>> John 14:15
>> (15) If ye love
me, keep my commandments.
>>
>> John 15:10
>> (10)
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I
>>
have
>> kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his
love.
>>
>> 1 John 2:3-4
>> (3) And hereby we do
know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
>> (4) He that
saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a
>>
liar,
>> and the truth is not in him.
>>
>> 1 John
3:22
>> (22) And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we
keep his
>> commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in
his sight.
>>
>> 1 John 3:24
>> (24) And he that
keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him.
>> And
hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath
>>
given
>> us.
>>
>> 1 John 5:2-3
>> (2) By
this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God,
>>
and
>> keep his commandments.
>> (3) For this is the love of
God, that we keep his commandments: and his
>> commandments are not
grievous.
>>
>> Revelation 12:17
>> (17) And the
dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with
>>
the
>> remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and
have the
>> testimony of Jesus Christ.
>> Revelation
14:12
>> (12) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that
keep the
>> commandments of God, and the faith of
Jesus.
>>
>> You might plead lack of intelligence or that
the Holy Spirit is not a
>> rationalist or any number of things, but
it is quite simple and true that
>> if
>> you do not keep
the commandments, you are not in Christ. Here is the
>>
reason
>> that you and I cannot understand one another concerning
the
>> characteristics
>> of a believer in his apprehension
of knowledge and truth.
>>
>> Please read the above passages
seriously and don't just skip over them.
>> Those who believe in
Jesus keep his commandments, and his commandments
>> are
>>
not grevious. If you do not keep his commandments and you think
everyone
>> transgresses his commandments, not only are you wrong,
but your eternal
>> fate
>> is in the balance. The
judgment of hell fire is at your door despite
>> your
>>
perspective of the Incarnation of Jesus Christ.
>>
>> David
Miller
>>
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always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may
>> know how you
ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)
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