Re: [TruthTalk] Creationism

[Judy Taylor]

You JD have rejected substance unless conformed to your liking and by then it is no longer substance but mixture.

So what would be the point??

 

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:33:51 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I rest my case !!  And a fourth post (of the morning) that is absolutely content free   ------------   talk about "substance abuse !!"  that is what goes on in your your posts. 

 

jd

 

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From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Big problem JD; the "biblical message" is something other than what you have been proffering on TT so far

So why not just admit that you counsel using your own theology and that the results belong to you also?.   

 

jt: How about a statement of TRUTH communicated by the author of TRUTH then?  

 

JD: That is exactly what I am saying.  I counsel others as time permits.  I use the biblical message in my work.  That does not mean the Bible is a counseling manual !!  Neither is it a science book.   But if you don't get what I am saying in the above,  just move on.   It does not appear that you do get what I have said.   

 

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 01:05:59 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What do I believe about Genesis?   Did you read any of my posts?  

Science has no answers to our confusion, our bondage, our need for community and   an   innate longing     to live beyond what we see.  As soon as we turn Genesis into a statement of science,  we lessen its value to the human spirit.  

 

How about a statement of TRUTH communicated by the author of TRUTH then?   That is exactly what I am saying.  I counsel others as time permits.  I use the biblical message in my work.  That does not mean the Bible is a counseling manual !!  Neither is it a science book.   But if you don't get what I am saying in the above,  just move on.   It does not appear that you do get what I have said.   

 

What do I get from reading those first three chapters?   That God is in control  --  not that He is SOMEHOW in control  -  but that He is IN FACT in control.   He is my creator.   I am in His image.  

 

He is your Creator but you are not in His image unless you have been totally conformed to the image of

Christ already - in fact, not in theory only.  Your attitude to His Law would belie that.   Adam and Eve were not created with the nature of Christ as their mainstay !!   Just JudySpeak and nothing more. 

 

And even when I fall, He continues to hover over and round me.   It tells me that I was created for others  --  my wife, my children and the world in which I live. 

 

The first three chapters of Genesis tells you all of the above?  Where?

Take your Bible, open it to the first pages of Genesis, lean over until your nose is nearly touching those pages and BAM !!!,  YOU WILL SEE IT.   

 

It tells me I am responsible for much of my actions.   Work is a curse because I must be responsible !!  

 

Newsflash!!  You are responsible for ALL of your thoughts as well as your actions.    No kidding. 

 

 I and my wife are one because  God   thought this to be the case from the beginning.   and REST       has as much a place in the coming and goings of man as work.   That's what I get out of this Genesis account.  While some of you only see a debate !!!! 

 

You and your wife are one flesh; the Lord would like to be One spirit with you JD  Done deal, Judge Judy .....   beginning many years ago. 

 

Do you know the best way of dealing with a child  - in my case an older son  -- who comes home announcing that he no longer believes in the bible??!!  IGNORE that comment and continue to be a witness , using, at times, the very book that he rejects.  DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT challenge him/her to a debate.  You will not win, if your version of :winning" is to bring that child to say "Iwas wrong, Dad, and you were right again."   He won't do it.   But if you ignore the challenge,  and give biblical presentations that make sense to the way he is living his life  --  the objection vanishes into thin air.  Theory?   Nope.   It worked on both of my older boys  -  the lawyer and the doctor.   But I digress with some free advice. 

 

The long and short of the lesson is this  --  make the Bible THE battle ground and you will lose the war  !!!    Present the Bible as something that offers life in the Spirit of God in the Christ of God and you have a winner. 

 

 

jd