Hi Eric,
Having re-read my email I agree, it is unclear.
By "dynamic", I am referring to the ability to interact with the database
and hide this interaction from the user.

For example, the user interacts with the visible frame, though if you (as
the developer) need
to access the the database for whatever reason, you just set the params
of the hidden frame and do a GET request, parsing the response, (with some
help from Javascript
of course). With the output, perhaps combos could be loaded or anything
else done using Javascript or perhaps the content sent to another window -
the sky's the
limit really.

Hope that is a little clearer. Perhaps this is yesterdays tactics for some
of the guys here -
i wouldn't know, it's a little mind boggling for a new comer, though I am
interested
to hear your opinion of this.

BTW, this the first I have seen of my three posts, so thankyou for
responding - something
is up with someones (shrug) mail server.

Regards,

pat.

----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Turbine Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [REPOST] Alternatives to hidden frames in Turbine framework?


> On Wednesday, February 6, 2002, at 02:22  AM, Pat Saunders wrote:
>
> >  I am contemplating the best way to retrieve data from the server.
> >  I have been mucking about using the "Pull model" and am very happy
> >  with the clean manner in which I can get data from the server, and
> > present
> >  it inside the web page. When it comes to doing it dynamically, I have
> > seen
> >  it done with frames and basically it looks painful to code and maintain
> > (and
> >  many people on the net seem to agree).
>
> I've seen your earlier posts and I'm confused by your question.
> What do you mean by "doing it dynamically"?  To my way of
> thinking, any template-based system (Velocity, JSP,  Perl's
> HTML::Mason, ASP, Cold Fusion, Tango) is "dynamically" generating
> web pages.
>
> <anti-frames-rant>
>    And any template system can replace frames in a much more
>    development friendly manner.  The only thing I've ever wanted to
>    do that can be done with frames and not done with templates is
>    creating fixed navigation elements and a scroll-able content
>    frame.  But the pain frames introduce has never been worth that
>    feature, so I try to design without a need for scrolling.
> </anti-frames-rant>
>
> So now you know where I'm coming from.  8^)  I don't understand
> what you mean by "doing it dynamically" nor do I understand what
> frames have to do with it.
>
> Please clear those things up and we'll see if I have anything
> useful to suggest.  8^)
>
> -Eric
>
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