Only templates and classes.  Flux was the first project to be packaged this
way.  Velocity can read the templates from the jar.  My tr.props is a
regular tr.props, but the module.packages= line is pretty long, and at the
bottom I have a bunch of 'include fooapp.properties' lines to pull in the
properties files from my sub applications.  It is a pain since these need to
be copied into the same directory as tr.props ( at least thats how we are
doing it ) and aren't read from the jar.  We just copy all the additional
stuff into the main turbine apps tree ( props, images, javascript, etc ).
It isn't ideal, but was the best we could do with turbine and breaking up
our applications.

Real support for Sub-applications would include full life-cycle management
of the sub-app and stuff.  Maybe the avalon containers will help. 

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Jeffrey D. Brekke                                   Quad/Graphics
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                              http://www.qg.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Miessbrandt Gunter [mailto:miessbrandt@;ixtern.de]
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:08 AM
> To: 'Turbine Users List'
> Subject: AW: Modular Application Design?
> 
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> i'm very interested about packaging sub-applications in a jar-file.
> Can you send me your TR.props file?
> What kind of files contains the jar-file? Images too, or only
> templates and java files?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Gunter M.
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Brekke, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Brekke@;qg.com] 
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Oktober 2002 15:59
> > An: 'Turbine Users List'
> > Betreff: RE: Modular Application Design?
> > 
> > 
> > This is what we are currently doing for our sub-applications. 
> >  Each project packages up the code and templates into a jar.  
> > The jars are pulled into a main turbine application along 
> > with the sub applications configuration file. We just add an 
> > 'include' to the bottom of tr.props for the subapps config. 
> > The module.packages line is also updated.  
> > 
> > It works, but what would really be nice is to extend the 
> > functionality to, as you mention below, allow the jar to be 
> > dropped in real time, and the turbine app auto pick it up.  
> > This would need to have the config packaged into the jar, the 
> > module.packages auto-updated, and dynamic updating of 
> > TurbineResources.
> > 
> > =================================================================
> > Jeffrey D. Brekke                                   Quad/Graphics
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]                              http://www.qg.com
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott Eade [mailto:seade@;backstagetech.com.au]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:01 PM
> > > To: turbine-user
> > > Subject: Re: Modular Application Design?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I believe what you are suggesting is possible.  Classes can
> > > be loaded from
> > > jar files by default and turbine provides 
> > ClasspathResourceLoader for
> > > retrieving templates from a jar file.  If the classes and 
> > > templates for a
> > > module are provided in a jar file and a configuration file 
> > is added to
> > > inform the main application about the module (so it knows how 
> > > to integrate
> > > it) then all that should be required is a restart of the 
> > > webapp to kick the
> > > new module off.  Note that a new module might also need the 
> > > resource loader
> > > paths and module.packages to be updated in TR.props to work 
> > properly.
> > > 
> > > HTH,
> > > 
> > > Scott
> > > --
> > > Scott Eade
> > > Backstage Technologies Pty. Ltd.
> > > http://www.backstagetech.com.au
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > From: Ian Beatty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Reply-To: "Turbine Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:09:00 -0400
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Modular Application Design?
> > > > 
> > > > Greetings.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm checking out Turbine as a possible base for a major web
> > > application I'm
> > > > starting to design. I see a lot that I like, but I am
> > > concerned about one
> > > > aspect. Perhaps readers of this list could help to resolve
> > > the question for
> > > > me.
> > > > 
> > > > It's important that the finished application be easily
> > > extensible, in the
> > > > sense that someone else could develop a "module" that would
> > > add to the
> > > > application. A module would get inserted into the website's
> > > page hierarchy
> > > > at a particular location, supplying an entire new branch.
> > > For example, it
> > > > might define a directory "http://localhost/myapp/module3/";
> > > and all contents
> > > > of that directory. Or perhaps it would get inserted into 
> > an existing 
> > > > directory (supplied by the base app or an already-installed
> > > module) such as
> > > > "http://localhost/myapp/somepart/module5/";.
> > > > 
> > > > As I understand the Turbine framework, this would require
> > > files to be
> > > > separately inserted into some or all of the application's 
> > > > templates/app/screens, templates/app/navigations, and
> > > templates/app/layouts
> > > > hierarchies. In addition, appropriate class files would
> > > have to be inserted
> > > > at the right places in the application's WEB-INF/classes
> > > hierarchy, and
> > > > various configuration and properties files might need
> > > altering as well.
> > > > 
> > > > What I'd really like is a way to just drop a folder or JAR
> > > containing all
> > > > the module's classes, templates configuration information
> > > and properties
> > > > into a directory somewhere, and have the Turbine app
> > > recognize it. Perhaps
> > > > I'd have to specify in an app-global configuration file
> > > where that module's
> > > > root should be located in the application's existing
> > > hierarchy (as it
> > > > appears in URLs). Then installing a module is as simple as
> > > drag-and-drop,
> > > > and edit one file.
> > > > 
> > > > (I realize I'd also need to have any back-end support for 
> > the module 
> > > > installed separately, such as EJBs or DB tables, but I'm
> > > not worried about
> > > > that part here.)
> > > > 
> > > > Is this possible in the Turbine framework? Anybody got any
> > > neat ideas?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > 
> > > > ..Ian
> > > > 
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