Hi Mike, the problem is actually not building but knowing what to do with it. I had a look at Fulcrum and Stratum a while ago when it was seen as a decoupled Turbine Service Framework. Now I looked at ECM in the Avalon project but ECM is deprecated and this point I was entirely confused. Party because it is somehow confusing and partly I'm under some pressure to get a service framework for my project up and running.
I hope a get a few hints to kickstart me since I have a few former Turbine services waiting for migration. Thanks in advance Siegfried Goeschl -----Original Message----- From: G�schl,Siegfried Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 3:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Fulcrum Confusion Hi Eric, don't worry - we all have to earn some real bucks ... :-) Okay, I try to overcome my confusion ... +) I'm looking for the capability to define the services, their implementation class and their confguration in a file pretty much the same way as with TurbineResources.properties. As far as I understand I'm able to provide individual configuration file such as TestComponentConfig.xml and TestRoleConfig.xml. +) The sample-avalon-conf.xml found in the fulcrum distribution looks like a master config file pulling together the component's configuration (the big TurbineResources.properties was a maintanance nightmare anyway). I don't know how this is done but it seems to support XML and property configuration files +) What I miss from the picture is how do initialize the Avalon container (ECM??!) to load and initialize all defined components. I too stupid to find it in the unit test ... :-( +) So my first step would be to pull everything together a setup a configuration to initialize Torque and XML-RPC. Torque and XML-RPC is now used in three projectsand I would to standardize the configuration ... standalone server as command line program, JUNIT test setup and webapps using JSP&Struts. I was able to that with Turbine but the dependencies for a non-web application are killing me Thanks in advance Sigi PS: Was the Hypersonic stuff hepful?! . I think this done using TestComponentConfig.xml and TestRoleConfig.xml. What I miss from the picture -----Original Message----- From: Eric Pugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 12:53 PM To: G�schl,Siegfried Subject: RE: Fulcrum Confusion Siegfried, Sorry about being slow, I've been traveling (consulting) and the wrapup of the project sucked up all my time! You aren't the first to ask about Fulcrum standalone.. I should put some sort of writeup together. There is a big kind of confusion in Fulcrum.. Originally Fulcrum was it's own framework, then it was based on Avalon, but it was still a monolithic codebase.. Everything depended on/ extended some FulcrumService (?) classes.. The next step in evolution was to bust it out into seperate projects, so that is why you have to remove the src/java directory out of the main fulcrum project. So, you don't want any fulcrum.jar, instead you should be using the jar files for the individual components. Either something like fulcrum-xmlrpc.jar or i the Implementation and API are different, then fulcrum-security-api.jar and fulcurm-security-hibernate.jar I think the service framework stuff is because you are looking at the old stuff... Again, Fulcrum is meant to run in an avalon container, either Merlin (the future) or ECM (the past). That is why there are unit tests that demonstrate that the components work in Merlin, or ECM, or sometimes both. Really what I need is a Technology Compatibilyty Test Suite that simplifies testing the components in multiple containers... To add Torque, check out the unit test in Turbine.. there is a unit test that demonstrates starting torque standalone, starting it using the old Turbine startum service, and starting it as an Avalon component. Hope that helps, let me know.. Eric -----Original Message----- From: Mike Manner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 4:46 PM To: Turbine Users List Subject: Re: Current State of Fulcrum? Hi, you have now to build it yourself, using maven it's quite simple if you follow the steps listed at : http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/fulcrum/building.html Mike G�schl,Siegfried wrote: >Hi folks, > >I would like to use Fulcrum as a light-weight service framework pretty much as the >Turbine Services Framework but with a minimum set of dependencies. I would like to >embed it into webapplications and console applications without the big JAR pack from >Turbine. > >+) At IBIBILO there is fulcrum-3.0-b2-dev.jar but the build was obvioulsy done 2002. >What is the current state of Fulcrum?! > >+) I was able to build the CVS HEAD two weeks ago but I'm not able not create >something like a fulcrum-???.jar to get the minimum service framework (compile errors >with maven java:compile). Do I miss somehting here?! > >I hate to say it but I pretty much lost with Fulcrum ... :-( and I would love to use! > > >Thanks in advance > >Siegfried Goeschl > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
