Following a number of questions about the status of the antelope sample application I thought I would make things a bit clear.
Firstly just to introduce myself - (Ben Gidley) - I work for a company called Anite. Anite have been building web applications using Turbine for a while and we like it a lot. In the last year we have been working on a major project building an intranet application using Turbine. This project was the largest turbine project and let us to expand the number of developers working with Turbine significantly. During this process we realised that getting started with Turbine (especially with the extra components we use) was very hard. So we decided to write a sample application (antelope). Another key component of our large application was a workflow engine (Zebra) - this engine when used with Turbine gives a very nice web development environment. We have decided to open source Zebra (we are still in the process of extracting it fully from commercial code) - this will reside on zebra.tigris.org. The aim from Anite's point of view is to use Antelope as a training application and a base for new projects based on Zebra/Turbine. Currently antelope only has Turbine based elements in - the really cool stuff is not there yet! Currently we don't plan to move Zebra and Antelope to jakarta - as they do not yet meet the criteria to be a project (as only Anite are involved) - longer term we may consider this. We don't want to split them up either as Antelope is designed to be a sample of how to use Turbine with the Zebra engine as well as without it. In short Antelope is a best practice sample of the 'Anite' way of using Turbine. As Anite now have a large investment in both current and older Turbine applications we intend to keep Antelope up to date and current. On the subject of version of Turbine we are using a recent Turbine CVS HEAD. My opinion is this is basically stable as far as someone developing an application using Turbine is concerned. The bits that are changing are in the guts of turbine. We have successfully ported back and forth between 2.3 and 2.4 HEAD with almost no code changes. Obviously it would be better to use a release version - but we wanted the pipeline which is only in 2.4. On Flux vs Antelope - Antelope has a security manager because Anite needed one and we thought why not put in antelope! It uses Fulcrum security and I doubt Flux would work with Fulcrum Security. Also (I didn't write it!) I think the GUI is better than Flux's. We are very happy that people are using Antelope - and hope it will become a great Turbine sample and help people get started. A number of people who comment frequently on this list have been working for Anite on Antelope and the other elements such as Mike Jones (mainly antelope), Peter Courcoux (Turbine Review), Eric Pugh (Antelope and Zebra), Matthew Norris (designer of Zebra) and myself. If anyone wants to ask me about this directly please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Ben Gidley --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
