On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 10:04 -0700, Bob Ippolito wrote:
> On 10/2/06, Stuart Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the reply Kevin...
> >
> > > > I want to ask some questions, however, about scalability.  I'm
> > > > developing a web system (the pages of which will be customised on a
> > > > per-user basis), that may grow to be quite popular.  I need to
> > > > implement this, such that it's horizontally scalable in an indefinite
> > > > manner.
> > > >
> > > > OK, so web server replication and load balancing is easy.  My problem
> > > > is with the DB.  I can find several good-looking master-slave DB
> > > > replicators (Slony for PG, for example), but I can't find a suitable
> > > > load-balancing mechanism, especially one that integrates with
> > > > SQLObject
> > > > or SQLAlchemy.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what you mean here. In what way is the ORM involved with
> > > the database replication? Do you mean from the standpoint of having
> > > some collection of web servers talk to some specifically collection
> > > of database servers?
> >
> > *** As I see it, there are two problems in using a distributed
> > master-slave arrangement for the DB: replication (i.e. mirroring data
> > from the master to the slaves) and load balancing (i.e. balancing the
> > "DB-read" load across the slaves).
> >
> > Replication is handled by tools such as Slony.  What I need from the ORM
> > (or whatever) is a mechanism for load balancing.  I need to be able to
> > say: here's my master server (for writing) and here is my list of slave
> > servers (for reading).  Please balance the system load appropriately,
> > across these servers.  Or I need a hook where I can insert code of my
> > own to do this.
> >
> > I have a sneaking suspicion that it might be possible in SQLAlchemy, but
> > I don't think it will integrate out of the box with TG's Identity
> > implementation.
> >
> > Plus, I would like to do it in SQLObject, so I can have Catwalk.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> 
> Why don't you do load balancing at the DB layer with pgpool or something?

*** pgpool is limited to one master, and one slave.  It's scalability is
therefore quite limited.

I haven't found any general-purpose tools which can provide unlimited
(say, >20 slaves) scalability for either MySQL or PostgreSQL.  Does
anyone know of one?

Thanks,

Stuart


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