On Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:28:39 Gustavo Narea wrote:
> I'll reply to the latest emails later because I don't have enough time
> right now, but there's something that cannot wait...
> 
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Diez B. Roggisch <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Well, as eager as Gustavo always is to point out the power of repoze.wh*,
> > he has so far shown little if any understanding of the problem at hand.
> > His suggestions don't solve anything so far.
> 
> Look Diez, I'm sick of your arrogant/trolly attitude since the very first
> response to this thread and now your eagerness to take this to a more
> personal level.
> 
> I don't care if that's just the way you are, but I hope you'll watch your
> tone next time so that we can discuss like *adults* do.

You are exactly right Gustavo - the arrogant and attitude is exactly the 
problem here.

But obviously I see it the other way round. If I read something like this from 
you

"""
The point I'm trying to make is that this kind of things can perfectly be
done with repoze.who, without bringing any hack to the authorization
controls like that @xrequire decorator or the other things you suggested.
"""

when clearly you

 - don't understand the problem
 - disqualify proposed solutions as "hack"
 - ignorantly insist that things are "that simple", when obviously they 
aren't, and this repeatedly so (I lined out the problem with the subsequent 
calls not being authenticated several times..)

then that's an arrogant & ignorant attitude in *my* book. Which was the reason 
why *I* changed my tone.

And what the heck are you talking about "arrogant attitude since the very first 
response"? How can you read this into that post totally escapes me. I laid out 
he various options, including ways how to actually use repoze.who. 

Which IMHO is more complicated (and impacted by performance issues) than it's 
worth it, but I clearly stated that as an opinion, not as advice to fore go 
repoze.wh*. Which by now, I'm obviously willing to do.

Which in turn I think is the real problem here: whenever one merely suggests 
that repoze.wh* is anything since the greatest thing since sliced bread, you 
get defensive. Instead of trying to see criticism as means to enhance it.


Diez


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