Hi,

Some green is fine with me too, but all green and nothing but green is :(.


Rick, you comment on the categorization, is well taken.  Just that my
perspective was to bring top level focus on the technologies - SCA. SDO, DAS
in Tuscany.  I still find it a bit uneasy to say at the onset that Tuscany
deals with Java Projects and C++ Projects.

Finally, if what I have proposed is totally unacceptable to most then we can
stay put with the current site and start updating content.

On the other hand if people feel that we can try out this change atleast
until M3, then I would like to commit this tomorrow so that we can start
updating content.

Thanks

- Venkat


On 11/7/06, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You should be able to run build.bat and get the site-publish created.

Also, rfeng had posted a snapshot of the site during today's IRC chat, and
it's available at :
   http://people.apache.org/~rfeng/tuscany/site-publish/

PS.: I think I like the greenish version better then the new colors...

- Luciano Resende

On 11/6/06, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Venkat,
> There is no site-publish directory in this zip file. How do I look at
the
> content?
> Haleh
>
>
> On 11/6/06, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have put in a new zip file -
> > tuscany_site_Nov_6.zip<
> >
>
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12344405/tuscany_site_Nov_6.zip
> > >in
> > the JIRA (
> > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-703) containing the
updates
> > to
> > the look and feel.  I have linked up all (hopefully) the content that
> > exists
> > today.  If people find this agreeable I can commit this and we can
start
> > pushing in contents into various areas from now on.
> >
> > Raymond, could you please over write your last post on
> > people.apache.orgwith the contents of this zip file.  Thanks
> >
> > - Venkat
> >
> > On 11/4/06, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Information presented on the website needs to be progressive. This
> means
> > > that we  expose critical/interesting information as top level
> > information
> > > and allow the reader to learn more as they advance.
> > >
> > > I agree that it is interesting for users and developers to know
> > > about  SCA's
> > > flexibility to extend beyond Java and C++ at the first glance. This
is
> > > something we'd want to promote as a top level piece of information
on
> > the
> > > website.
> > >
> > > On the other hand,  information about bindings seem to be
> implementation
> > > details that are not critical as a top level information. User will
> > reach
> > > to
> > > this information when he/she drills down for more information.
> > >
> > > Haleh
> > >
> > > On 11/3/06, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Please find my comments inline.  Thanks
> > > >
> > > > - Venkat
> > > >
> > > > On 11/3/06, Andrew Borley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > For SCA, I'd like to see a little more emphasis on the things we
> > > > > support in our releases - Tuscany SCA does more than just C++ or
> > Java,
> > > > > and the fact that we implement in these 2 languages doesn't
really
> > > > > need to be quite so highlighted on the site (IMO).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If we have more than just Java and C++ lets go and mention that,
but
> > > under
> > > > SCA - is all that I am asking.  So that a user knows where all of
> this
> > > > goes
> > > > into or what the common thread is to all of this.  Remember we
also
> > have
> > > > DAS
> > > > and SDO.
> > > >
> > > > What would be cool
> > > > > would be a listing of all the stuff we support, and then link to
> > some
> > > > > info about where and how we provide that support. E.g:
> > > > >
> > > > > Component language bindings:
> > > > > Java
> > > > > C++
> > > > > Javascript
> > > > > Python
> > > > > Ruby
> > > > > PHP (with a link to the SCA for PHP project for now)
> > > > > etc..
> > > > >
> > > > > Containers:
> > > > > Tomcat
> > > > > HTTPD
> > > > > etc..
> > > > >
> > > > > Bindings:
> > > > > Axis2 Web Services
> > > > > etc..
> > > > >
> > > > > What do people think?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This will certainly interest the users.. but what's in your mind
> about
> > > > presenting this.. are you suggesting that we simply list all of
this
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > Navigation Pane on the left?
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/3/06, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Everbody for looking into this and providing your
> comments.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rick, I am ok with the Tabs as long as we provide enhanced
user
> > > > > experience
> > > > > > thro them.  We must either have the tabs or the pane on the
left
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > first level navigation.  i.e. For every tab selected the
> > navigation
> > > > pane
> > > > > on
> > > > > > the left has a diff set of relevant options.  So if SCA tab is
> > > seleced
> > > > > then
> > > > > > on the left pane we see only stuff releated to SCA.  I would
> feel
> > > this
> > > > > to be
> > > > > > consistent and less confusing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lee and Raymond, it is no surprise that the links are not
> working
> > > > :).  I
> > > > > had
> > > > > > submitted ahead that this is just to get a top level feel of
the
> > > > > navigation
> > > > > > I am proposing and the links may either not work or work
> wrongly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Meanwhile I am proceeding with the changes and will get up
more
> > > > updates
> > > > > on
> > > > > > that JIRA before this weekend.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Venkat
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/3/06, Raymond Feng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I uploaded Venkat's patch to
> > > > > > >
> > http://people.apache.org/~rfeng/tuscany/site-publish/index.htmlfor
> > > > > better
> > > > > > > viewing. I found quite a few links bring me to the wrong
page.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would suggest that we keep the GUI template (panes and
tabs)
> > as
> > > is
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > focus on adding more contents.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Raymond
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Venkata Krishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: <tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:33 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tuscany Website Updates
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sure yes Ant.  For the Documentation, as mentioned
earlier,
> I
> > > plan
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > separate pages for SCA Docs, SDO Docs. and DAS Docs.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Each of these pages will have a list of topics that will
> > further
> > > > > link to
> > > > > > > > separate pages.  Here is something that I can imagine for
> now
> > > for
> > > > > this.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1) SCA Java Overview
> > > > > > > >    <will will have something in general about how we have
> > > > > partitioned as
> > > > > > > > APIs SPI Core etc.>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2) SCA Java - Extensions
> > > > > > > >    <About extensions... Implementation Types, Bindings and
> the
> > > > > general
> > > > > > > > prog. model around loaders, buliders, invokers>
> > > > > > > >    <How to write your own impl. type and binding
extensions>
> > > > > > > >    <Tuscany Implementatin Extensions>
> > > > > > > >          <JavaScript>
> > > > > > > >          <Groovy>
> > > > > > > >          <Ruby>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 3) SCA Java - DataBinding Facility
> > > > > > > >    <About DataBinding and its advantage>
> > > > > > > >    <How to write your own data bindings>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 4) Java SCA Runtimes and Application Deployment
> > > > > > > >      <Standalone>
> > > > > > > >      <WebApp>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 5) Java SCA Samples
> > > > > > > >      <Overview of samples available in SCA Java>
> > > > > > > >      <How to write your own SCA Application>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So I guess, what you wish to do might go into one of the
> lind
> > > uder
> > > > > Topic
> > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please feel free to correct this or fill in if I have
> grossly
> > > > missed
> > > > > out
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > somethings.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Venkat
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 11/2/06, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On 11/2/06, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > On 11/2/06, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > I am putting up some proposals for updates to our
> website
> > > and
> > > > > > > request
> > > > > > > >> > > feedback on this or suggestions for the better.
Right
> > > away
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > top
> > > > > > > >> > > level
> > > > > > > >> > > ones are:
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > - Do away with the tabs.  This is because I don't see
> > > > > correlation
> > > > > > > >> > > between
> > > > > > > >> > > the Tab options and the options on the navigation
pane
> in
> > > the
> > > > > left.
> > > > > > > >> i.e
> > > > > > > >> > > .  if
> > > > > > > >> > > the tabs are first level navigation then the pane on
> the
> > > left
> > > > > must
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > >> > > sub-options within a selected tab - I don't see such
a
> > > > > > > >> correlation.  So
> > > > > > > >> > > let's avoid confusion to the website visitor
> > > > > > > >> > > - There is lots of green :) and am having some
> > difficulties
> > > > to
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > >> > > additional colors that gel with this.  Either
somebody
> > with
> > > > > better
> > > > > > > >> > > colour
> > > > > > > >> > > sense helps or we moderate the green a bit.
> > > > > > > >> > > - The images that are used for the Navigation Optoins
> on
> > > the
> > > > > left
> > > > > > > >> > > pane
> > > > > > > >> > > and
> > > > > > > >> > > for the titles of various boxes may need to be
> sharpened
> > a
> > > > bit
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > All this besides the fact the the various navigations
> > paths
> > > > > need to
> > > > > > > >> > > be
> > > > > > > >> > > reviewed and set right.  I shall get to these as
well.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > Meanwhile I have created a JIRA
> > > > > > > >> > > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-703where
> I
> > > have
> > > > > > > >> attempted
> > > > > > > >> > > to
> > > > > > > >> > > provide a view of what's in my mind for the
Navigation
> > Pane
> > > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> left
> > > > > > > >> > > together with some changes for the Downloads page.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > You simply have to extract the zip that is attached
in
> > that
> > > > > JIRA
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >> > > take a
> > > > > > > >> > > look at /site-publish/downloads.html.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > Also, I have a diagram posted for the Java_SCA
Overview
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > same
> > > > > > > >> > > JIRA,
> > > > > > > >> > > please see if you can say somethings about that as
> well.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > - Venkat
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Its really good you're looking at the website Venkat,
it
> > has
> > > > > become a
> > > > > > > >> bit
> > > > > > > >> > neglected. What you've suggested above all sounds good
to
> > me,
> > > > I'd
> > > > > > > >> suggest
> > > > > > > >> > just going ahead and making changes as you think
> > appropriate
> > > as
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > >> will be
> > > > > > > >> > much easier for you. Maybe for big ones mention on the
> dev
> > > list
> > > > > first
> > > > > > > >> but
> > > > > > > >> > otherwise just dive in and send emails after the fact
so
> > > others
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > >> review -
> > > > > > > >> > just as with the code CTR not RTC :)
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I meant to add, I'd like to help, specifically with
adding
> > > pages
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > doc
> > > > > > > >> about the various extensions, maybe along the lines of
that
> > > > example
> > > > > i
> > > > > > > >> posted
> > > > > > > >> earlier [1]. Could you find a space for me on the website
> for
> > > me
> > > > to
> > > > > do
> > > > > > > >> that?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>    ...ant
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
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> > > >
> > >
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