I'm About to forward to legal@ to get further advice. On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/4/08, Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Luciano, >> >> Yes, I'm no lawyer either. >> >> It just brought me up short to find that the code itself is licensed under >> Apache license, but then >> there is this other pile of legal stuff which applies to any *use* of the >> code. What purpose does >> the code have other than to be used??? So I want to make sure that we have >> thought through what >> this means - I don't want to see Tuscany in general being subjected to any >> kinds of legal >> limitations just because we decided to include some Google code in our SVN. > > Copyright licenses pertain to copying (and performing). Patents > pertain to use. Software is a little odd since a copy of the program > must be created before it can be used. >> I don't know whether we need to ask the wider Apache community about this - >> does anyone have the >> necessary legal experience to offer advice? > > I recommend posting this question to the legal-discuss list > > Robert > >> >> >> Yours, Mike. >> >> Luciano Resende wrote: >>> Let me start with a DISCLAIMER that I'm not a lawyer, so all that I'm >>> going to say here is my own understanding. >>> >>> I think that the link you sent, is more towards the usage of google >>> services (e.g blogger, calendar, etc)... and GData Java Client API >>> would be the Apache Licensed code that could be used to >>> programatically access these services. Having said that, I'd compare >>> this to using an apache licensed api to access some kind of >>> proprietary services from Amazon or any other company. >>> >>> Based on that, I think the usage of the api should be fine, but >>> connecting to actual google services would require a google account >>> and also that the user has accepted those license terms. >>> >>> Well, this is just how I understood. Any other Thoughts ? >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Mike Edwards >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Luciano Resende wrote: >>>>> Hey Mike >>>>> >>>>> What are your concerns with regards to license ? Looking at [1], it >>>>> looks like the GData Java Client is Apache License 2. >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://code.google.com/p/gdata-java-client/ >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Mike Edwards >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> Douglas Leite wrote: >>>>>>> After analyzing the Google Data API and the code of binding-atom, >>>>>>> binding-atom-abdera, and binding-feed, I propose an approach to start >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> development of the GData biding. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I propose creating a new type of binding: biding-gdata. Similarly as >>>>>>> binding-atom-abdera, that extends the binding-atom, this new kind of >>>>>>> binding >>>>>>> would extend the binding-atom too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The implementation of the invokers (linke GetInvoker, PostInvoker, and >>>>>>> PutInvoker) would be done using the GData Java Client, that provides >>>>>>> tools >>>>>>> and an abstract layer, abstracting the necessity of handling with HTTP >>>>>>> requests/responses and XML's processing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The binding-gdata could extend the binding-rss aiming to allow RSS >>>>>>> feeds. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This approach looks like the binding-feed, but reusing the >>>>>>> binding-atom >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> binding-rss, and using the GData Java Client to implement the >>>>>>> invokers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you think about? >>>>>>> >>>>>> Douglas, >>>>>> >>>>>> We need to take some care over the idea of using the GData Java Client >>>>>> - >>>>>> we >>>>>> need to check out the legal terms that apply to the client code, since >>>>>> it >>>>>> does not appear to have a license that is compatible with the Apache >>>>>> open >>>>>> source license, as far as I can tell. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not saying that you can't use the Google code, but we do need to >>>>>> ask >>>>>> to >>>>>> see what the right way would be to use this code. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yours, Mike. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Luciano, >>>> >>>> What about this page, linked off the one above: >>>> >>>> http://code.google.com/tos.html >>>> >>>> Yours, Mike. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >
-- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/
