On 8/8/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 8/7/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > We talked about this before (
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg16784.html) but
> > didn't come to any conclusions. So,
> >
> > 1/ What is the requirement?
> > 2/ What is the technical solution?
> > 3/ When should we try and get it done?
> >
> > To get things going again here are some thoughts drawn from what was
> said
> > in
> > the referenced thread.
> >
> > 1/ An API in line with accepted logging/management practices to support
> > arbitrary debugging and runtime info, warning and error logging
> >     A common approach to exception/error handling specifically around
> the
> > detail recorded in the error messages
> >     Internationalization/localization
> >     Execution Tracing
> >
> > 2/ Keeping it simple was a popular sentiment
> >     A number of java logging solutions have been proposed Log4J, SLF4J
> > etc.
> >        I believe DAS is using Log4J.
> >        We have dependencies that also use logging tools. We can take a
> > look
> > at how others approach this, e.g, quick glance at the last CxF release
> > shows
> > they include SLF4J jars
> >     Aspects were investigated to show how they can be used for tracing,
> > seems like an interesting optional facility but adds extra
> > complexity/dependencies
> >     There was also a suggestion that we could implement some higher
> level
> > tracing, e.g. runtime starts, stops, application loading, component
> > instance
> > creation etc.
> >     We need to move error message out of the code and into resource
> files
> >
> > 3/ I think we can reasonably expect to agree what approach we are going
> to
> > take fairly quickly and provide some examples, i.e. before the next
> > release?
> >     People suggested before that we take time out to go through the code
> > based and bring it into line. This will take a lot of time but can we
> get
> > it
> > into 1.0?
> >
> > Please add your thoughts to the list and we can then draw them together,
> > try
> > some of it out and come to some conclusions.
> >
> > Simon
> >
>
> +1 for going with SLF4J. If we can decide on this soon then we can all
> just
> start adding it in to the code we're working on and debugging, and then
> maybe have a focused sweep before 1.0 to make sure its in everywhere
> useful.
>
>    ...ant
>

Cross posting to the user list also as I expect this is close to everyone
heart.  Can everyone reply to both lists.

Thanks

Simon

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