On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:16 PM, David Hutto <smokefl...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote: >> David Hutto wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Lie Ryan <lie.1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 12/07/10 23:37, Robert Sjöblom wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've been told to use input() if I know that I'll only get integers, >>>>> and raw_input() for "everything." >>>> >>>> That is a bad piece of advice. You should only use input() when you can >>>> fully trust whoever doing the input (i.e. you). >>> >>> Who uses the crap we, as noobies produce? It's pie in the sky >>> mentality. We design it because WE want it and WE(individually) use >>> it. >> >> Do you want to learn good habits or learn bad habits? I think we've seen >> plenty of evidence on this mailing list that you have little interest in >> learning good habits, but actively defend your right learn bad habits. > > You define a good habit as making the code impossible for someone just > learning to use, > and you call my habits bad.. I recall you making a habit of being an > asshole(pystats should ring a bell, thanks for giving me the credit > for inspiration...bitch) > > > >> >> There are plenty of people who do the same. They're harmless and even >> pathetically amusing as newbies,
Said the pathetically amusing pro. and then they get a job working as a >> professional programmer, and end up writing crappy, bug-addled code filled As your ignorant ass did when you first started(maybe no email evidence, but just an educated guess) >> with the sort of n00b errors that we've been warning about. Bug-addled code >> with *real* consequences. > > Yeah, we call that YOUR mistakes being pointed out later in life due > to experience. > 20/20 hindsight is great ain't it poindexter? > >> >> Command injection bugs are hugely common in the real world. At least four of >> the 25 most common security bugs in *professional* software are in my >> opinion varieties of the command injection flaw, and one of those is the >> SECOND most common flaw: >> >> SQL injection attack #2 most common >> Unrestricted upload of dangerous files #8 most common >> OS command injection #9 most common >> PHP file inclusion attack #13 most common > > Injection is only relevant in non-personal code. > > >> >> http://cwe.mitre.org/top25/ >> >> OS command injection is *exactly* the sort of thing we're warning about. >> >> Feel free to continue learning bad habits, but please stop trying to >> encourage others to do the same. > > I didn't encourage a bad habit, I encouraged development of a problem > defined by the client and a solution developed byu the programmer. > > The only bad habit around here, is your condescending nature. > > >> >> >> -- >> Steven >> _______________________________________________ >> Tutor maillist - tu...@python.org >> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor >> > And if you do look at the emails, yes i was hostile at the beginning(I've learned to ignore bitches like you), because of attitudes like yours. And if you also look, everytime I tried to help point a fellow noob in the right direction, you came in and said how ignorant I was for trying to help(thanks alot, from them and me). _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor