* Wayne Werner <waynejwer...@gmail.com> [110929 03:52]:
>
> My personal favorite?
>
> Two terminal windows - one with Vim, editing my Python scripts, and another
> with an interactive interpreter. Since you can map keys in Vim, I have <F5>
> mapped to save and run current file. If you're in the habit of editing
> multiple files you could set it up to map <F5> to ask which file you want to
> set as your main .py file. And since you mentioned debug, I usually just use
> pdb if I need debugging. You could easily map a key such as <F9> to insert a
> new line and type 'pdb.set_trace()'. Vim has a fairly steep learning curve,
> but if you spend 30 minutes with the vimtutor you'll be fine. With newer
> versions of Vim you can also write plugins for them in Python.
I'll second that. Vim (not vi - more on that later) is my IDE. I
have customized it using vimscript and what I have is as feature -
rich as any out-of-the-box IDE - but with differences.
> Of course these capabilities (and many many more) are available with Emacs.
I used Emacs extensively in the past. Vim is my preference, but
emacs has a feature that is not present (yet) in vim : the ability
to run interpreters - as an example the terminal shell and the
python - asynchronously inside of the application. This is a very
handy feature, eliminating the second application window.
> I personally recommend that you learn one (or both) of these editors. They
> will highly improve the speed at which you are able to edit your code.
I would not wish vim or emacs on anyone who doesn't wish to use
them. But for someone with an open mind, some points :
. 'vim' is not 'vi', but is 'descended from' vi.
. There is 'vim' - teminal mode and 'gvim' - vim with gui.
I use vim as my default midnight command editor, gvim as my
'IDE'
. Emacs can be run in terminal mode also, with greater speed, but
less features.
. There are 'easy' modes available for both, enabling a new user to
find themselves in a more familiar environment.
. The python interpreter can be compiled into vim. On ubuntu it is
the default. This gives the user the ability to customize vim
using python code.
. Some call emacs and vim 'arcane'. Some ridicule vim's 'modal'
style of editing. Neither are arcane, they are very up to date
and are a parallel way of doing things.
vim modal editing is a thing of beauty. Watching a adept
vim user work can be breathtaking to observe. The corollary
would be that some consider python weird because it is
column-sensitive.
Just sayin' ....
--
Tim
tim at tee jay forty nine dot com or akwebsoft dot com
http://www.akwebsoft.com
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