On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> Alan Gauld wrote: > >> On 07/10/11 16:40, lina wrote: >> >> but today I was also discouraged, I was told that you should not have >>> learned python, you should focus on C or bash, or D, cause python is >>> going to be obsolete, >>> >> >> C is a great language for writing Operating Systems and other "near the >> metal" code. But its not the best language for busiess apps, artificial >> intelligence and a host of other things. Bash is a good user shell, but its >> not even the best Unix shell for scripting (Thats probably ksh). >> D? Who actually uses D? I think your informant was not well informed. >> > > > Ah, flame wars over which is the best language :) > > I don't know enough about ksh to compare it to bash, but at least you > didn't recommend csh :) > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-**faq/shell/csh-whynot/<http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/> > > But frankly, all the shell languages are pretty horrible. > > D might not be a popular language, but it is a modern, advanced language in > the C family, influenced heavily by Python. If I were to learn a new > statically typed procedural/object-oriented language, I'd seriously consider > learning D. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**D_(programming_language)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_%28programming_language%29> > > But it really depends on why you are learning the language. > > Are you learning a language because you need it for a specific job or > project? Then learn whatever language you need, because you need it, > regardless of whether it is widespread or not. > > Are you learning a language because you want to maximize your chances of > getting a job? Then learn one of the big commercial languages like VB, C, > C++, PHP, Javascript or Java. You won't learn to be a better programmer, you > may learn to be a *worse* programmer, and you might be competing with > thousands of code monkeys, but there are plenty of jobs available. > > Are you learning a language because you want to get the highest paid job? > Then become an expert in an old language like PL/I or Fortran or something, > and do it 30 years ago so you can claim 30 years experience. Now, if you can > find a job -- and good luck with that -- you can pretty much set your own > rate. > > Do you want to learn a new language for the love of learning languages? > Then learn a wide variety of languages. > > Do you want to expand your skill-set (good for the resume!) and open your > mind to new programming concepts? Then learn a variety of languages using > many different programming paradigms: > > * procedural > * declarative > * functional > * logic/deductive > * object-oriented > * stack-based > * concatenative > * concurrent > * natural language programming > * esoteric languages > > etc. > > Even if you don't have the time to learn the language, learn ABOUT the > language. > > You will never say, "Gosh, I wish I knew FEWER programming languages!" > Ha Ha ... Today I also talked with someone who had 20 years computation experience, what I was told is that writing the algorithm is the most challenge things than language its own. regarding the python and C, I was told that python is good for interface and others, but slow. and further was suggested to write the main part in C and wrapped in python. so complicated for me to achieve at present I guess. Thanks > > > > -- > Steven > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/tutor<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor> >
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