With permission of the author, I have been asked to forward this to the list. I trust that those vigilantees on the warpath against gmail are happy now, as there is one fewer gmail user using Python.
----- Forwarded message from Andy McKenzie <amckenz...@gmail.com> ----- In-Reply-To: <20131223151122.GB29356@ando> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 10:17:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Tutor] How to post: Was Re: The Charms of Gmail From: Andy McKenzie <amckenz...@gmail.com> To: "Steven D'Aprano" <st...@pearwood.info> You know what? I've been lurking here a long time. I've asked a few questions and gotten a few useful responses. But overwhelmingly, when I think of this list, I find that my instinctive response is "Full of rude, arrogant people." So screw this. I don't need to keep reading insults to people who are trying to ask reasonable questions. I don't need to read long rants about how GMail is ruining the world and all its users ought to be banned. I don't need to watch people be harassed for daring to top-post. There's at least one post in every thread I read here that makes me think "This guy's a jerk... why am I reading this?" I'm done. With the list, and possibly with Python... it doesn't seem to do much that other languages I like don't do, and the loudest portion of the language's advocates -- not the majority, just the loudest -- are just plain obnoxious. I don't need that in my life. Good luck to all of you, and I hope your lives are pleasant. And I hope those of you who don't currently know learn how to treat people politely. Andy McKenzie On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info>wrote: > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:59:15PM +0000, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > > I entirely agree. I'll offer to supply the cotton wool, baby oil, bibs > > and nappies that we can wrap the newbies up in > > "Wrap the newbies up in"? Who taught you to speak English? And what's > with the two spaces after a full stop? It's not 1955 anymore, get with > the program. > > (See how annoying it is to have the substance of your post completely > ignored while trivial incidentals are picked on? Are you now even a > *tiny* bit moved to use a single space after full stops?) > > > > as we don't want to offend them. > > It's not about *offending* them. It's about being a tedious, shrill > nagger that makes the whole environment unpleasant for everybody, not > just the newbies. If you can give advice without being unpleasant and a > nag, please do so. Would you rather be "right", and ignored, or > effective? > > > > I mean if we do offend them, they might desert us for > > places such as stackoverflow, where they can read top voted answers that > > are completely wrong. > > I keep hearing people say this about StackOverflow, but whenever I > google on a question I find plenty of good answers there. Yes, I see > some pretty wrong or silly or ignorant answers, but not as the top-voted > answer. Can you show me some of these top-voted but wrong answers? > > > -- > Steven > _______________________________________________ > Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor > ----- End forwarded message ----- _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor