On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:35 AM, <c...@zip.com.au> wrote: > On 01May2016 14:18, Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote: >> >> Hi Alan, >> >> I thought I'd mention that the list-owners of "python-list" have now >> decided to only allow people to post if they are subscribed to the list: >> >> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2016-April/707571.html >> >> The motivation is to ensure that if people ask a question, and people >> reply only to the list, the original poster has at least a chance of >> seeing the replies. >> >> Of course, in the case of python-list, non-subscribers can just use the >> Usenet interface (comp.lang.python, or Google Groups, or gmane). But >> anyone using Usenet is presumably savvy enough to check for replies >> using Usenet. >> >> What's your policy here on the tutor list? I think we should require >> subscription before people can post. (And I think we should default to >> individual emails, not daily digest.) > > > I am not Alan, but personally I am +0.8 and +1 on these. > > I think requiring subscription ensures that users see responses. I don't > know if tutor is already like that, and requiring subscription _does_ raise > the bar for people coming for help. I would hope that any "please subscribe > in order to post" list responses to newcomers was both welcoming and very > clear on how to do it.
I am in agreement with this as well. I have often wondered if newcomers are subscribed or not as after subscription one receives a very helpful email which addresses most of the common post formatting issues that we seem to endlessly rehash. Or perhaps I am one of the few who actually read it upon subscribing? I wonder no matter which way the current matter gets decided, if it might be time to rewrite the automated response email. I just got one (again) after sending a different post and looking it over, it is overly long and wordy, perhaps discouraging newcomers from actually reading it? Also, I note that the verboten "top posting" is never mentioned. It probably should be added. I feel that the interleaved writing style employed by many lists is completely foreign to newcomers to programming. > There seems to me a subjectly large number of very short threads with a > question from someone, a couple of responses from list members, and no > further reply. > Finally, I would like to see digest simply not offered. They are a disaster. > They break subject lines, threading and bury responses in noise. + infinity! -- boB _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor