On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 07:58:22AM -0700, Alex Kleider wrote: > > > On 2016-06-27 20:48, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > >Also Debian. Not Ubuntu. > > Can you elaborate why you specifically exclude Ubuntu?
I've been bitten by an Ubuntu install where half of the GUI apps were unstable and simply didn't work. They either wouldn't launch at all, or they'd launch and as soon as you tried to do something they'd crash. And no, it wasn't using the unstable repo. And then Ubuntu went to Unity, and a few other annoyances which individually wouldn't matter much, but the overall feel is just ... wrong. For instance, Mark Shuttleworth is now suggesting that Ubuntu is going to lead the way to a brave new world of package management "snap": http://kmkeen.com/maintainers-matter/ No thank you, I don't want to get my software directly from the vendor, at least not exclusively. I just get the feeling that Ubuntu is keen to disrupt working systems just for the sake of disruption, and that the community is filled with the Cascade of Attention-Deficit Teenagers that Jamie Zawinski thinks so highly of </sarcasm>. And then I noticed that they have a *tutorial* to teach people how to sign their Code Of Conduct, said tutorial starting with "First, create a Launchpad account": https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Forums/CoCSA_Tutorial at which point I decided they've lost the plot. I think at this point probably the only thing which would get me to go back to Ubuntu is if they said "You know what, systemd actually is a terrible idea" and didn't replace it with something worse. -- Steve _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor