The Prez was carried live in English on Baltimore 11-1, the main channel and prime time was pushed back ~20 minutes.
On Thursday, November 20, 2014, <tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote: > tvornottv@googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!forum/tvornottv/topics> > Google > Groups > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> > Topic digest > View all topics > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!forum/tvornottv/topics> > > - Jeff Fager leaving top job at CBS News, returning to '60' > <#149cfdf47f5439e5_group_thread_0> - 3 Updates > - CBS warns of pending Dish blackout > <#149cfdf47f5439e5_group_thread_1> - 1 Update > - The president's speech tonight will not air live on English > language networks <#149cfdf47f5439e5_group_thread_2> - 4 Updates > - Hugh Laurie to appear on 'Veep' <#149cfdf47f5439e5_group_thread_3> > - 1 Update > - The CW ordered new episodes of Penn & Teller: Fool Us > <#149cfdf47f5439e5_group_thread_4> - 1 Update > - 'Saul' Gets Two-Night Premiere on AMC > <#149cfdf47f5439e5_group_thread_5> - 1 Update > - J-Law And Dave <#149cfdf47f5439e5_group_thread_6> - 8 Updates > - SportsTV: Monumental snows in Buffalo threaten NFL game > <#149cfdf47f5439e5_group_thread_7> - 4 Updates > - Jerry O'Connell talker not going forward > <#149cfdf47f5439e5_group_thread_8> - 1 Update > - Netflix said to stick with Cosby special > <#149cfdf47f5439e5_group_thread_9> - 1 Update > > Jeff Fager leaving top job at CBS News, returning to '60' > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/9fe56bb0c7170962?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Bob Jersey <bob.in.jer...@juno.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bob.in.jer...@juno.com');>>: Nov 20 11:46AM > -0800 > > Says an undetailed post on THR > < > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/cbs-news-jeff-fager-steps-750791> > > (link). > > B > Tom Wolper <twol...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','twol...@gmail.com');>>: Nov 20 03:02PM > -0500 > > > > Says an undetailed post on THR > > < > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/cbs-news-jeff-fager-steps-750791 > > > > (link). > > I have a strong feeling that 60 Minutes has been struggling this season. I > hope having Fager come back full time will help it get back to the quality > it used to have. > Bob Jersey <bob.in.jer...@juno.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bob.in.jer...@juno.com');>>: Nov 20 04:57PM > -0800 > > TheWrap > <http://www.thewrap.com/jeff-fager-stepping-down-as-chairman-of-cbs-news/> > > (link) adds that David Rhodes will be in charge, but not become chairman; > Fager and Les offer statements. > > B > Back to top <#149cfdf47f5439e5_digest_top> > CBS warns of pending Dish blackout > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/2b1b7d050740f014?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Bob Jersey <bob.in.jer...@juno.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bob.in.jer...@juno.com');>>: Nov 20 04:52PM > -0800 > > A temporary extension of the deadline is in place, says TheWrap > < > http://www.thewrap.com/cbs-dish-network-agree-to-short-extension-carriage-fees-blackout/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mailchimp> > > (link), without specifics. > > B > Back to top <#149cfdf47f5439e5_digest_top> > The president's speech tonight will not air live on English language > networks > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/8ad8b8bcbe55fc5?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Tom Wolper <twol...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','twol...@gmail.com');>>: Nov 20 03:37PM > -0500 > > Univision and Telemundo will air it with subtitles. It's noted that the > White House did not request air time, which is always granted. > > http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/19/media/networks-and-obama-speech/index.html > Bob Jersey <bob.in.jer...@juno.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bob.in.jer...@juno.com');>>: Nov 20 01:30PM > -0800 > > It's an un-pop speech about his un-pop plans to defy Congress. Still, > stations and networks found Net and digital-sidechannel space for it. > > B > Tom Wolper <twol...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','twol...@gmail.com');>>: Nov 20 05:12PM > -0500 > > > > It's an un-pop speech about his un-pop plans to defy Congress. Still, > > stations and networks found Net and digital-sidechannel space for it. > > Defying Congress? A bipartisan reform bill passed the senate by a wide > margin and almost half of the house would vote for it along party lines. > This issue has been moving to the top of the headlines for months and it's > going to have consequences for a large number of people. I don't see > anything about this speech which makes it less worthy than the state of the > union speech. > Bob Jersey <bob.in.jer...@juno.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bob.in.jer...@juno.com');>>: Nov 20 04:47PM > -0800 > > Tom Wolper, to *moi*: > > anything about this speech which makes it less worthy than the state of > the > > union speech. > > > I suffer from having people around me that only care about the rightie > pundits (e.g. Fixed Noise > < > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/20/in-immigration-speech-obama-will-announce-protective-status-for-two-groups/> > > [link]) who contend he will not wait for the bill to be passed, which > won't > happen till after the 1st, and use his executive-action pen to do > something > the bill may or may not do. > > B > Back to top <#149cfdf47f5439e5_digest_top> > Hugh Laurie to appear on 'Veep' > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/a95398a0a45f76f6?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Bob Jersey <bob.in.jer...@juno.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bob.in.jer...@juno.com');>>: Nov 20 04:37PM > -0800 > > And I won't spoil what this NY Daily News piece > < > http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/hugh-laurie-veep-article-1.2017985> > > (link) contends is what he's doing. > > B > Back to top <#149cfdf47f5439e5_digest_top> > The CW ordered new episodes of Penn & Teller: Fool Us > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/657015dea800d401?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Tom Wolper <twol...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','twol...@gmail.com');>>: Nov 20 04:22PM > -0500 > > Since the CW ordered the new episodes I assume that they will be shot in > the US with American magicians. Also noted were new seasons for America's > Next Top Model and Masters of Illusion. > > > http://deadline.com/2014/11/cw-orders-more-americas-next-top-model-penn-teller-fool-us-masters-of-illusion-1201286963/ > Back to top <#149cfdf47f5439e5_digest_top> > 'Saul' Gets Two-Night Premiere on AMC > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/1a35e16bc889f77f?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Mark Jeffries <spotligh...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','spotligh...@gmail.com');>>: Nov 20 01:03PM > -0800 > > "Better Call Saul," the "Breaking Bad" spinoff tracing how small-time > lawyer Jimmy McGill became big bad criminal attorney Saul Goodman, will > premiere on Sun. Feb. 8 before going into its regular Monday night at 10 > slot the following evening: > > > http://www.thewrap.com/better-call-saul-gets-two-night-premiere-for-february-releases-new-teaser-video/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mailchimp > > "NCIS LA" and "Castle" probably don't have anything to worry about, but if > that Katherine Heigl show is on shaky ground, NBC ought to be worried, > especially if "The Voice" hasn't started its cycle yet. > Back to top <#149cfdf47f5439e5_digest_top> > J-Law And Dave > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/ef3c1db2b971e3b5?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > PGage <pga...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pga...@gmail.com');>>: Nov 20 08:03AM -0800 > > Steve wrote... > After 20 years of fame, Clooney's humble personna may be fake, I don't > think Jennifer Lawrence's personna is fake. P > > > > Well if Lawrence's persona is fake, then she's an even better actress > than > > I already thought she was. > > > I don't anybody could do the talk show circuit and be their "real self" - > most of the time. People get tired, cranky, depressed, anxious and fed up > in real life. So the question is not really whether a celebrity is "real", > but how likable is the persona they choose to adopt? For my money, the > personas of Clooney and Lawrence are very likable, and no less so when I > assume that they are somewhat different than their "real" every day selves. > Joe Hass <hassgoc...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hassgoc...@gmail.com');>>: Nov 20 06:24PM > > First, my apologies for being unclear on this (and I realized it when I was > standing in the Costco parking lot last night). I wasn't matching up Lohan > and Lawrence as actresses. Rather I was matching them as David Letterman > guests. My apologies. > > Here is my extent of actual experience with Ms Lawrence's career: when Jack > Nicholson interrupted her interview with George Stephanopoulos after > winning the Oscar, and her interviews with Dave. She may be a lousy, lousy > actress, but she's an incredible guest, and Dave goes into a rare mode with > her that, as Tom noted, is at the Hunt/Garr level. > > I know we all have our different modes for different situations. If she's > fundamentally different than this, then as Mr Bowie noted she's a helluva > actress. > > PGage <pga...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pga...@gmail.com');>>: Nov 20 10:36AM -0800 > > > > (SNIP) I know we all have our different modes for different situations. > If > > she's fundamentally different than this, then as Mr Bowie noted she's a > > helluva actress. > > She is a hell of an actress. As someone mentioned - exhibit A is "Winter's > Bone". > <d...@flids.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','d...@flids.net');>>: Nov > 20 11:39AM -0700 > > I can point to that interview with Stephanopoulos as the moment that I > fell completely in love with Lawrence. Nicholson tapped her on the shoulder > to speak his congratulations to her, and she endearingly acted like a giddy > school girl as she spoke to one of her apparently heroes. As he was finally > walking away, he yelled "You look like an old girlfriend of mine" and J-Law > had the presence of mind to switch into bawdy mode without missing a beat, > and shouted back "do I look like a *new* girlfriend?" and then turned and > squealed at Stephanopoulos like a 14-year-old girl. > > I laughed out loud, first time I saw the exchange, and thought "that > girl's gonna do all right." > > Doug Fields > > Tampa, FL > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: J-Law And Dave > > From: Joe Hass <hassgoc...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hassgoc...@gmail.com');>> > > Date: Thu, November 20, 2014 1:24 pm > > To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tvornottv@googlegroups.com');> > > First, my apologies for being unclear on this (and I realized it when I > was standing in the Costco parking lot last night). I wasn't matching up > Lohan and Lawrence as actresses. Rather I was matching them as David > Letterman guests. My apologies. > > Here is my extent of actual experience with Ms Lawrence's career: when > Jack Nicholson interrupted her interview with George Stephanopoulos after > winning the Oscar, and her interviews with Dave. She may be a lousy, lousy > actress, but she's an incredible guest, and Dave goes into a rare mode with > her that, as Tom noted, is at the Hunt/Garr level. > > I know we all have our different modes for different situations. If she's > fundamentally different than this, then as Mr Bowie noted she's a helluva > actress. > > On Wed Nov 19 2014 at 10:35:29 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pga...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > > I like Lawrence a lot - I take Joe's point, except I never wanted or > expected much from Lohan, even when she was a kid. Silver Linings was way > over hyped, and not a particularly good portrayal of Bi-Polar Disorder, but > I did not hate it - and I quite liked American Hustle. > > But the point here is not how great Lawrence is as an actress, but how > good a guest she is on talk shows, particularly with Dave. My daughter is a > huge fan of Miss Stewart, and for all I know she is a superior actress (I > have never seen her work) and human being; but she is just a horrible, > horrible talk show guest. Now that is not the worst thing you can say about > somebody - probably most of the very good people on the planet would be bad > talk show guests. But if the topic is "good talk show guests", I think by > any standard, Lawrence will be rated very high, and Stewart very low. > > Lawrence reminds me of George Clooney (when he was doing interviews). A > regular person, humble persona which clearly is very intentionally crafted > and worn as a mask. I don't mind that - it is a likable mask, and these > people have so many demands on them that you don't really expect them to be > "themselves" (whatever that means) in their 100th interview of the tour. > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Tom Wolper <twol...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','twol...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:11 PM, 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV < > tvornottv@googlegroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tvornottv@googlegroups.com');>> wrote: > > Can I be a dissenting voice here? Personally, I can't stand Lawrence, and > find her as phony as Monopoly money. In a weird discovery for me, I heard > Kristen Stewart with Leonard Lopate a couple of weeks ago and thought she's > exactly what Lawrence puts on the pretense of being: Someone who honestly > doesn't give a rat's ass about "stardom" and who is far more interested in > doing interesting projects and then going away and living (what sounded > like) a real life among actual people until she comes across something she > thinks is worthwhile. Before this interview, I had no interest in Stewart > at all, marking her as "that Twilight girl," but I found her to be > interesting, funny, and savvy. Lawrence always strikes me as Acting Too > Hard at being "quirky" and "normal" and comes across as anything but for me. > > If nothing else, she owes me Big Time for both "Silver Linings Playbook" > and "American Hustle." > > I agree about Silver Linings Playbook and have no plans to see American > Hustle. > > I don't care what Lawrence is like off camera or whether her indifference > to stardom is contrived or authentic. For obvious reasons the Late Show is > going to bend over backwards to bring on popular young actresses and > Lawrence knows how to come with energy and playfulness. Her peers are all > stiffs on the LS. > PGage <pga...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pga...@gmail.com');>>: Nov 20 10:44AM -0800 > > That was a great moment - and could only be spontaneous. I had a similar > reaction as Doug > > Jennifer Lawrence, Jack Nicholson Interruption Makes Waves After Oscars; > Anne Hathaway on Big Win <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJmhsJ5T5L0> > > > Joe Hass <hassgoc...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hassgoc...@gmail.com');>>: Nov 20 07:24PM > > I don't remember if it was discussed here or somewhere else at the time, > but on second watching, focus on Nicholson in the background *before* he > comes up. He takes a couple moments to prepare himself (patting the sweat > off his forehead, taking off his glasses). He knew damn good and well what > he was gonna do, and for me, it makes the entire thing even more sincere > and delightful. > > The final lines (L:"Is he still there?" N:"I'll be waiting!") sent me over > the edge. > Dave Sikula <dsik...@yahoo.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dsik...@yahoo.com');>>: Nov 20 11:32AM > -0800 > > Joe: > > My own apologies for taking it off-topic, but for me, it's all the same. > I'll stipulate that she's lively and quirky and seems to have chemistry > with Dave, but for me her affect seems entirely non-spontaneous and > planned; hence, the phoniness. I can't separate one from the other. (I > feel > the same about Drew Barrymore, by the way.) > > As for Mr. Nicholson, he is entitled to his opinion. > > --Dave Sikula > > On Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:24:21 AM UTC-8, Joe Hass wrote: > Mark Jeffries <spotligh...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','spotligh...@gmail.com');>>: Nov 20 02:52PM > -0600 > > All I will say is that if it took a public radio interviewer to make > Kristen Stewart unbland, good for him (and granted, she hasn't been given > much of a chance to do anything other than Bella-ish characters). If > Jennifer Lawrence comes in to see Lenny and he exposes her as a fake, then > I guess we'll know. Otherwise, I will only relate someone else's story: > An actress acquaintance of mine in Chicago's parents knew Lawrence's > parents in Louisville, where she grew up, and she babysat Lawrence when she > was a teenager. It'll be two years ago that went to a Christmas party in > Louisville, Lawrence was there, recognized her and was the delightful > person she always seems to be, as the person I know tells it. So for now... > > Mark Jeffries > Saints Spotlight Editor > spotligh...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','spotligh...@gmail.com');> > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:32 PM, 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV < > Back to top <#149cfdf47f5439e5_digest_top> > SportsTV: Monumental snows in Buffalo threaten NFL game > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/ba5a92ffda0fd941?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Bob Jersey <bob.in.jer...@juno.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bob.in.jer...@juno.com');>>: Nov 20 11:38AM > -0800 > > The first two blog posts on this page at NBC Sports' Pro Football Talk > site > < > http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/jets-bills-game-could-move-due-to-snow/related/> > > (link) suggest time (as late as Tuesday?) and venue changes (Detroit?) for > the NY Jets-Buffalo Bills matchup originally slated for 1PM Sunday (23). > Decision coming Friday. > > B > PGage <pga...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pga...@gmail.com');>>: Nov 20 11:45AM -0800 > > > (link) suggest time (as late as Tuesday?) and venue changes (Detroit?) > for > > the NY Jets-Buffalo Bills matchup originally slated for 1PM Sunday (23). > > Decision coming Friday. > > ESPN.COM is reporting the game will likely be moved temporally and > spatially: > > "Coaches for the teams are preparing with the belief the game will be moved > to Monday evening in [Pittsburgh, 215 miles away, Detroit, 256 miles, or > DC, 389 mile]. The Bills have been unable to practice for the past two days > and will have to leave Buffalo to do so." > > Also: > > "Bills officials said Wednesday that it takes about three days to remove > one foot of snow from the stadium and surrounding areas. At the rate the > snow is falling, that cleanup would take 18 days." > Bob Jersey <bob.in.jer...@juno.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bob.in.jer...@juno.com');>>: Nov 20 11:52AM > -0800 > > PGage, to *moi*, in part: > > > "Bills officials said Wednesday that it takes about three days to remove > > one foot of snow from the stadium and surrounding areas. At the rate the > > snow is falling, that cleanup would take 18 days." > > Fans are being offered $10 an hour and complimentary tickets to help in > the > shovelling, per Canada's National Post > < > http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/11/20/buffalo-bills-reach-out-to-fans-to-help-clear-six-feet-of-snow-from-stadium-before-sundays-game/> > > (link)... > > B > Joe Hass <hassgoc...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hassgoc...@gmail.com');>>: Nov 20 07:56PM > > Mind you, the offer is in spite of a government order to remain off the > roads until further notice, so the idea that the Bills would ask their fans > to drive to Orchard Park to bail them out to collect that sweet, sweet > gate, concession, and parking revenue is so very National Football League > (PROTECT THAT SHIELD!). > > Back to top <#149cfdf47f5439e5_digest_top> > Jerry O'Connell talker not going forward > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/efee133120db040b?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Bob Jersey <bob.in.jer...@juno.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bob.in.jer...@juno.com');>>: Nov 20 11:23AM > -0800 > > CBS won't syndie *Man In The Middle*, with him and two women one of whom > his wife Ms Romijn, reasons unclear tho some stations worried about > replacing *Latifah* with it. TVNewsCheck > < > http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/80988/ctd-drops-jerry-oconnell-syndie-show?utm_source=Listrak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.tvnewscheck.com%2farticle%2f80988%2fctd-drops-jerry-oconnell-syndie-show&utm_campaign=CTD+Drops+Jerry+O%27Connell+Syndie+Show+> > > (link) > > B > Back to top <#149cfdf47f5439e5_digest_top> > Netflix said to stick with Cosby special > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/5ac52d9aec63b12c?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Darren Glass <dgl...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dgl...@gmail.com');>>: Nov 20 10:52AM -0500 > > Next thing you know, people will still be harassing Paul Reubens for things > he may or may not have done... > > > Back to top <#149cfdf47f5439e5_digest_top> > You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this > group. 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