I'm sticking with Discovery, although it's a bit easier in the UK (and the ROW I believe) since Discovery is on Netflix. So no extra subscription required.
As far as the timeline goes: part of me is not worrying too much about it, and part of me thinks that the whole "Discovery is very special" means that they can blow the ship up or send it into the depths of the universe at the end of the run and take all their strange technology with them. I do worry that they've written themselves into a hole in being able to just materialise instantaneously wherever they choose. But then Doctor Who manages quite well to have lots of jeopardy and they have time as well as space to play with! I could probably do with slightly fewer Klingons. Do we really need them in every single episode? At least we're not still getting 10 minute long subtitled sequences which seem to drag really slowly as the production worries too much about the accuracy of the language at the cost of dramatic flow. But I do like the fact that everyone is pretty flawed. We don't have straightforwardly heroic characters who can do no wrong (or if they do, manage to learn a lesson in the process) as TOS and TNG was full of. I do question the "gritty" feel of the production though. They've added lots of grain to the imagery in post-production to try to make things feel more "real" but it feels overdone to me. I use Lightroom a lot for photo processing and there's a slider on that called Clarity. It feels like they've added loads of that to every shot. And then there was last week's F-bombs which really felt out of kilter. Yes - this is a gorier than usual Trek. But that just felt odd. I'm not especially fussed about swearing on TV (there's plenty on UK television after 9pm). But it really stood out in this instance. Adam On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 2:29 PM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am actually starting to dislike it less and less...and maybe even like > it. Certainly episodes 3-6 are far better than the horrible episodes 1-2. > > I do share some of Kevin’s concerns. It is not clear to my why it was > important to position Discovery so shortly before TOS in what I understand > to be the prime timeline. They could have made it 10 years after, created a > new alien race to be the main antagonist, and done most of what they seem > to be doing. I guess we have to trust that they are planning on providing > some link-up with Spock back story, and with Klingon back story, that they > think will make sense (though for now it seems every step in that direction > is mostly undermining things already established in TOS universe prime). We > have already seen enough tech in Discovery not available to Kirk’s era (and > some of which was later available to Picard) that it is almost inevitable > that at some point the world of Discovery has to be some kind of cul de > sac, in which Star Fleet orders some kind of embargo on everything about > Discovery and forces the next generation of star ships to evolve on their > own without benefit of the tech Discovery had. > > While I at this point do not like the discontinuities in the tech, I also > do not like the emphasis on the mystical, religious and quasi-magical > elements of both Vulcan and Klingon culture in Discovery, that moves this > show in my view closer to fantasy than sci-fi. These elements were not > unknown in TOS or TNG, but they were not so central. For my, Roddenberry > Star Trek is always about the relationship (sometimes conflicted) between > humanity and science, sometimes often framed as emotion or intuition and > rationality or logic. Vulcan mysticism was used occasionally as an example > of one way of reconciling those tensions - and as periodic plot rescuing > devices. But Discovery seems to want to make these elements a core part of > what is going on. That is not my Star Trek Jam. > > I do really dig Sonequa Martin, and several others of the cast are great. > I have not yet found any other use for the horrid CBS app, though there are > a few nice films I have already seen but might watch again. > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 9:32 PM Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I cancelled my month-long free pass to CBS All Access after week three or >> four. Discovery isn't worth paying for. The effects are good, and there are >> some decent actors in it, but it isn't good sci-fi, and it surely isn't >> good Trek. >> >> Can the next Star Trek NOT be a prequel or a reboot? Please? I've said >> before that it is so much easier to write an origin story than to come up >> with an original idea that advances the "universe." Discovery fails even as >> an origin story, since -- unlike Star Trek: Enterprise -- there are no ties >> to what is to come. We now have not one but two different Kirks, Spocks, >> and McCoys, and Discovery has nothing to do with the build-up to either of >> them. >> >> I'd have preferred Axanar. >> >> -- >> Kevin M. (RPCV) >> >> -- >> -- >> TV or Not TV .... 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