Re: point 4 "slaves on his plantation" Wow. Hadn't thought of it that way.
On Tue., Oct. 8, 2019, 11:16 p.m. PGage, <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: > 1. I will take second place to no person in my condemnation of Bush 43 and > his incompetent, hateful, anti-intellectual and damaging policies. > > 2. I don’t think you can put Barack Obama and Ellen DeGeneres in the same > category for this discussion. There are lots of reasons that former > Presidents should “hang out with” each other - especially when they are > from different parties and have strong ideological differences. That really > is a big part of what makes American great. > > 3. Celebrities have less reason to hang out with former US Presidents with > whom they not just disagree, but find to have been dangerous and immoral. > Ellen made a big deal about her commitment to being kind to people she > disagrees with, but this was more than just offering Bush a glass of cold > water on a hot day; it was more even than having a private dinner at a > friend’s house. By being seen with him in such a hugely public place, she > is letting Bush wash and rehabilitate his image and legacy - like maybe all > of his gay-bashing policies, and using anti-gay marriage ballot initiatives > as raw meat to bring out the hateful fundamentalists in 2004 to win > re-election was not really that bad. > > 4. But in the end, Ellen DeGeneres is allowed to sit next to whoever she > wants to at a football game (and really, even if Bush was not there, I > would have serious issues with her just sitting next to anyone from the > Jones family - as he has basically come out in favor of the view that NFL > players are basically slaves on his plantation). With the current state of > the nation, I can’t elevate someone being too nice to someone they disagree > with to the top rank of things I get excited about. > > 5. I have not seen Ellen DeGeneres is some years, has she had some kind of > ear enlargement surgery, or am I just forgetting that she always looked > like that? > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 10:32 AM Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> So there is a Twitter uproar about Ellen hanging out in a skybox with >> Bush. Her response: >> >> https://twitter.com/theellenshow/status/1181395164499070976?s=21 >> >> My response to this and to people like the Obamas hanging out with the >> Bushes... Bush took a job he was woefully unqualified for and repeatedly >> collapsed under the pressures of terrorist attacks, natural disasters, and >> pointless wars... thousands if not tens of thousands of people died as a >> direct result of his incompetence. I have friends from all backgrounds who >> believe in and have done things I disagree with. But to the best of my >> knowledge, none of them are responsible for thousands of deaths. At a macro >> level, people with disagreements ought to be able to get along, but I have >> to think I’d draw the line at war criminals. >> >> Regarding Ellen specifically, she stated she doesn’t attend many public >> events, so she had to know this would get attention. If there is fallout, >> it is on her. But I doubt there will be any fallout... Twitter will move on >> to something else soon, if they haven’t already. >> -- >> Kevin M. (RPCV) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4CM5rBg7FZxrBxWBPuQy5k92XDj1ncKa1TSwd25Owm4QQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4CM5rBg7FZxrBxWBPuQy5k92XDj1ncKa1TSwd25Owm4QQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYL9WPT7R8Oj6V%2BKArP-JEDN_%2Bh1UqcKcrtW1X2yOgikcA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYL9WPT7R8Oj6V%2BKArP-JEDN_%2Bh1UqcKcrtW1X2yOgikcA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAK5Q1Br_h28XEM%2BVhU7sVOhAPCVZ-G0OBym1%2B6JMyZnOBm_HKA%40mail.gmail.com.
