I was watching live when Trump took the lead in GA early this morning (Kornacki had it before it was even reported on the main relevant Twitter feeds), and woke up in time to see him take the lead in PA later this morning.
I think we are starting to get to the point where a call for the whole election can be made, but I’m not too critical that they have not done it yet. I suspect one complication is the recount in WI. Almost certainly Biden’s lead there will withstand a recount, but can the networks really make a call in the election when to do so would require giving a Biden WI now? Also think this is WH they are slow to make a call in PA (for which there really is no other explanation; Biden has clearly won that state). If they call PA for Biden, then will be forced to take a position on WI. I suppose they could designate Biden “The Apparent Winner” of the entire election, but that phrase might cause more problems than it causes. On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 1:16 PM John Edwards <jedward...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think there are a couple of things going on. The first is that whoever > is the first to call the election for Biden (and we're basically at the > point where the next state does it) is going to get destroyed by the > Trumpettes. Part of me thinks they may be waiting for Fox News to bite the > bullet and do it, although given how badly the WH reacted to their call of > Arizona on Tuesday (which was aggressive but looks like it will be correct) > Fox may be a bit gunshy. > > The second is that I think the networks are dragging this out to prime > time. Once Biden gets past 270, the show is effectively over and we all > stop obsessing over Steve Kornacki's khakis and whether John King had a > PornHub tab on his big screen (he didn't, but the video is funny). My guess > is the next vote dump in Nevada (supposedly at 4 Pacific/7 Eastern) will be > enough to call that, and a big dump in Arizona that doesn't see Trump > closing the gap quickly enough will pull everybody into line behind the AP > and Fox. If PA stretches beyond 25K, that may also provoke a call. But > since Harris and Biden are supposedly planning to speak at 8:30 Eastern > tonight, I would anticipate a call by then. They aren't going out there > again to say "things are looking good." > > John > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 1:52 PM Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> For two days my primary news source has been the AP Election Map via >> Google. Late last night I awoke and checked it to see Biden finally having >> a majority in Georgia, then this morning I saw Pennsylvania in Biden’s >> favor. >> >> At this point many including myself are wondering if news outlets are >> reluctant to call the race out of fear of what Trump will say/do as >> reprisal. Multiple statisticians have broken down the math... yes Trump >> could still win, but only if every current trend in vote tallies magically >> reversed. There will be recounts, but that won’t shift the numbers more >> than a couple hundred. So although all the votes aren’t in and won’t be for >> days, that doesn’t normally prevent every news outlet from making an >> informed prediction/call, yet here we are. >> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 10:07 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < >> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> When I tried it a few minutes ago, two of them were reporting on the >>> county just west of mine in PA... one of the local papers made a big series >>> of how the area -- majority Dems -- flipped to Donnie in 2016... B >>> >>> Doug Eastick, to Adam Bowie, Dave Sikula, Joe Hass, and PGage, Nov 6th: >>> >>>> Adam - thanks for that link. Such an easy thing to use. >>>> >>>> I wish I'd found this on election night, but I found this really useful >>>>> facility built by a developer from The Times (of London) that lets you >>>>> watch multiple simultaneous YouTube streams of news channels including the >>>>> ability to mute all, or pick the sound of which channel you want to hear: >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/d6d35e8e-6e29-412e-ba23-f60139564c80n%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/d6d35e8e-6e29-412e-ba23-f60139564c80n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> Kevin M. 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