Right - once upon a time, SyFy was only available on 17 in SD. Then they added 
it in HD on 111. Then they eliminated SD, but now duplicate SyFy in HD on both 
17 and 111. That’s either so people won’t complain about having to remember a 
new channel number, or because their carriage contract with NBCUniversal says 
SyFy has to be in a specific channel range (or maybe both).


> On Dec 22, 2023, at 3:04 PM, Jon Delfin <jondel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> all of the channels I cited are HD, at least with my hardware and service tier
> 
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 1:57 PM Jim Ellwanger <train...@ellwanger.tv 
> <mailto:train...@ellwanger.tv>> wrote:
>> Going back around 25 years (I first had “digital cable” in 1998) -- the 
>> channels in the 2-99 range were the traditional “analog” cable channels, and 
>> the 3-digit channels were “digital,” which eventually became “HD.”
>> 
>> Many cable systems no longer transmit analog signals, but they duplicate the 
>> digital/HD channels in the 2-digit range so people don’t have to learn new 
>> channel numbers if they don’t want to (and, perhaps, due to carriage 
>> contracts that specify channel locations).
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Jon Delfin <jondel...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:jondel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've been looking over alternative cable TV plans lately, and looking at 
>>> the channels menu, I see many of them have two locations in the list
>>> 
>>> there are theoretically numerical groups (the 200s are news channels, the 
>>> 500s are HBO/SHO/etc.), but this is random; SyFy can be viewed on 17 and 
>>> 111, IFC on 81 and 627
>>> 
>>> all duped channels are on the same tiers, so anybody whose package includes 
>>> one of the channels can also access the other
>>> 
>>> other than upping the number of "channels offered" in their advertising, is 
>>> there anything about this that matters to the viewer or to the cable 
>>> company?
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> and merry/happy/other to all
>>> 
>>> jon
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