Live sports advertising has been taken over by online gambling. On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 7:26 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote:
> One of my friends from my NBC years spent considerable time selling ads > during the news. Yes, they could (and still can) sell ads, but due to > demographics, the specific advertisers are typically less than desirable. > We’re talking boner pills and reverse mortgages. We’re talking SuperPAC > funded propaganda. We’re talking casinos. We’re talking drugs where 90% of > the ad is a list of side-effects. > > I just watched the segment of celebrity Millionaire featuring Marc Maron > and Sarah Silverman. The ads were the same if not worse than the ones that > run during the news. I don’t watch any sports outside of cycling, but I’d > wager outside of alcohol and fast food, their ads aren’t much better. > > Nobody’s turning to the networks for substance anymore, and nobody under > the age of… well… me watches the news anymore. So, yes, there is money to > be made, but outside of a few markets, news anchors and reporters make less > than school teachers. Budgets are scaled back to almost nothing. And the > rise of so-called “virtual sets” means no more in studio technicians. > > Kevin M. (RPCV) > > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 4:03 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It was about 15 years ago on this list during the May upfronts when we >> noticed that broadcast TV ratings were cratering. It only made sense for >> advertisers to spend less but the reports at the end of the meetings was >> that they were spending more. Over time, and possibly a new generation of >> executives, they finally shifted ad dollars. I guess it was more >> incremental than we expected. >> >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 3:35 PM David Lynch <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I got to talking to someone who teaches a university course about media >>> (albeit as part of a government/public affairs degree program) and >>> apparently, live sports and local news are the only things left making >>> anybody any money in broadcasting. It's why you're seeing so many reality >>> and game shows in prime time these days -- they're cheaper to produce than >>> drama and get enough viewers to justify keeping the lights on. >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 2:12 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> There is very little money left in traditional broadcast media, but if >>>> they can be locally funded and locally produced, A for effort, I guess. >>>> >>>> Kevin M. (RPCV) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 12:02 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Our long nati--onal nightmare is partly over, as West Coast Jimmy is >>>>> back on Sinclair's ABC stations as of tonight's rerun---however, Nexstar >>>>> is >>>>> hanging in there, as they want the FCC to approve that merger with Tegna >>>>> and get the waiver that would have them owning stations in approximately >>>>> twice as many cities as anybody else: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.thewrap.com/sinclair-jimmy-kimmel-abc-affiliate-stations-restored/ >>>>> >>>>> Which leads me to something I'd been meaning to post but haven't >>>>> gotten around to--in the last six weeks two long-standing network >>>>> affiliates--Warren Buffet's WPLG in Miami (67 years with ABC) and Gray's >>>>> WANF in Atlanta (30 years with CBS)--dropped their network affiliations >>>>> for >>>>> status as indies with a schedule predominately of local news (WANF's calls >>>>> stand for "Atlanta News First"). WPLG came out and said that they made the >>>>> move because they did not like having to share ABC shows with streaming >>>>> (yet their biggest syndicated shows, "Live!," "Jeopardy!" and "Wheel of >>>>> Fortune," are all streaming same-day or next-day) and they are promoting >>>>> the world newscast they are running in the time slot where David Muir used >>>>> to be "news from people you know without New York bias." ABC and CBS found >>>>> replacements in these cities, but I'm wondering if there is going to be >>>>> other network affiliates who think they might be able to make more money >>>>> and not compete with streaming with mostly local news. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/05143c62-40c6-40b9-93b1-1e7d80465ddbn%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/05143c62-40c6-40b9-93b1-1e7d80465ddbn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4C%3D9dwg3XHDKBpfyPrLkkJvqnAvbM2koeJiL%3DrpNToUeQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4C%3D9dwg3XHDKBpfyPrLkkJvqnAvbM2koeJiL%3DrpNToUeQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David J. 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