on their end.  If initially, say, crossbar and matrix would like to work with us to set up some kind of repeatable pattern we can suggest to others, that would be great.

ok, I'll take that to the team:

https://github.com/crossbario/crossbar/issues/1867

tldr: we could run our CI in 2 sets, one using pinned deps, and one with open-ended deps, our latest own master branches _and_ latest Twisted (trunk).

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