It's been nearly 6 months. Has this question been answered? If so I missed it.



On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Alex Payne<a...@twitter.com> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, nothing definitive. We're still looking into this.
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 07:56, Craig Hockenberry
> <craig.hockenbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Any news from the Service Team? I'd really like to get the counters
>> right in an upcoming release...
>>
>> -ch
>>
>> On Mar 6, 12:18 pm, Alex Payne <a...@twitter.com> wrote:
>>> I'm taking this email to our Service Team, the folks who work on the
>>> back-end of the service. The whole "message body changing as it moves
>>> from cache to backing store" thing is totally unacceptable. Answers
>>> soon.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 09:43, Craig Hockenberry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <craig.hockenbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Some discussion about this thread popped up on Twitter yesterday:
>>>
>>> > <http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/
>>> > thread/44be91d5ec5850fa>
>>>
>>> > Alex states that it's 140 bytes per tweet. So, of course, Loren
>>> > Brichter and I tried to prove that. With the following results:
>>>
>>> > 1) 140 characters that including ones that include HTML entities:
>>> > <http://twitter.com/gnitset/status/1286202252>
>>>
>>> > At the time of posting, this tweet showed up on the site and in feeds
>>> > with all 140 characters. After a few hours, the "<" was converted to
>>> > "&lt;", increasing the count per character from one to four bytes and
>>> > decreasing the tweet length from 140 characters to 69. (You can see
>>> > this truncation at the end of the tweet: the "&" is from "&lt;")
>>>
>>> > Presumably, this happens as tweets in the memcache are written though
>>> > to the backing store.
>>>
>>> > I also see a lot of Twitter clients that don't realize how special the
>>> > &lt; and &gt; entities are. It took me a LONG time to figure out what
>>> > was going on here.
>>>
>>> > 2) 140 Unicode _multi-byte_ characters: <http://twitter.com/atebits/
>>> > status/1286199010>
>>>
>>> > What's curious is that Loren's example with 140 characters uses the
>>> > Unicode 27A1 glyph. It uses 3 bytes in UTF-8. Why didn't it get
>>> > truncated? This seems to contradict Alex's statement in the thread
>>> > mentioned above.
>>>
>>> > As people start to use things like Emoji, tinyarro.ws and generally
>>> > figure out that Unicode (UTF-8) is a valid type of data on Twitter,
>>> > our clients should adapt and display more accurate "characters
>>> > remaining" counts. I can count bytes instead of characters, but I'm
>>> > not sure if I should or not.
>>>
>>> > No one likes a truncated tweet: we need an explicit statement on how
>>> > to count and submit multi-byte characters and entities.
>>>
>>> > -ch
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alex Payne - API Lead, Twitter, Inc.http://twitter.com/al3x
>>
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> Alex Payne - API Lead, Twitter, Inc.
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