John,

Is that page cached, because the third sentence of the first bullet
under Important Items still says *exactly* the same?

On Aug 30, 5:15 pm, John Kalucki <j...@twitter.com> wrote:
> Thanks. I've clarified the language.
>
> -John
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Dewald Pretorius <dpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > John,
>
> > Perhaps you should then rephrase the following at
> >http://bit.ly/sitestream_doc
>
> > "One Site Streams graduates to production, sites must only use the
> > REST API for data that is not available through User Streams or as a
> > fall-back data source."
>
> > It's in the first paragraph of Important Items.
>
> > Here's another issue that probably needs to be considered.
>
> > It applies mostly to DMs, because people will tend to use DMs for
> > sensitive information, and would expect a certain level of privacy.
>
> > Right now, an OAuth authorized site can query a user's DMs and do with
> > that info what it likes. It could present privacy issues, but at least
> > you have an audit trail of the DM request by the authorized site in
> > your logs/system.
>
> > You lose that audit trail with Site Streams. The DMs are
> > indiscriminately distributed out to all OAuth authorized sites that
> > subscribe to the user's stream.
>
> > It may not seem like a big deal, because it's status quo minus the
> > audit trail. Until you're hit with a multi-million dollar class-action
> > lawsuit for indiscriminately distributing potentially sensitive
> > information. Then it is a big deal. It's not only the lawsuit, it's a
> > privacy PR disaster as well.
>
> > On Aug 30, 4:25 pm, John Kalucki <j...@twitter.com> wrote:
> > > We're not forcing people over to Site Streams. If, on the other hand, if
> > you
> > > start to consume Site Streams, we want you to stop regular polling on the
> > > REST API.
>
> > > If your service is modest, any excess delivery will be modest. Excessive
> > > options add complexity and slow development for what may be little
> > > practical efficiency gain. Bandwidth and CPU are nearly free at
> > 1mbit/sec.
> > > It's all a balance.
>
> > > -John Kaluckihttp://twitter.com/jkalucki
> > > Twitter, Inc.
>
> > > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Dewald Pretorius <dpr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > This is super news.
>
> > > > However, if you're going to force web services to use Site Streams
> > > > when it is in production ("sites must only use the REST API for data
> > > > that is not available through User Streams"), then please add the
> > > > ability to subscribe only to certain elements. For example, we need
> > > > the ability to subscribe to only Follows, or to only Tweets and
> > > > Retweets, etc.
>
> > > > You make note that each stream may consume significant bandwidth (>
> > > > 1MB).
>
> > > > If a web service does not make use of the user's Follows, or of the
> > > > user's Tweets, then it makes no sense to consume that bandwidth with
> > > > the dead-weight of the elements that are not used by the service.
>
> > > > I understand that Site Streams is in beta now. I'm putting in this
> > > > request for when it is in production and we are forced to use it.
>
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