I'm still looking for a community leader answer on this one. On Apr 11, 5:50 pm, Corey Ballou <ball...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it. > > I have concerns regarding the streaming APIs, which mainly concern the > following: > > * usage of logical OR when using locations > * firehose limitations > * the user’s location field is not used to filter tweets > * increased application complexity for parsing the resulting stream of > data back out into individual searches > > I know that the Search API is not Twitter's preferred choice, but it's > currently returning the best applicable results for my application. > It's also worth noting that the API recently received a drastic > improvement to speed which should theoretically relax the strain on > the API: > > http://engineering.twitter.com/2011/04/twitter-search-is-now-3x-faste... > > I guess I'm mainly interested in knowing whether @twitterapi will > allow me to use the Search API in the manner I indicated above? > Essentially I would be willing to guarantee the application worker > nodes handles 420 rate limiting errors accordingly while still > supporting multiple twitter accounts and searches. > > On Apr 11, 1:05 pm, "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <zn...@borasky- > > > > > > > > research.net> wrote: > > I don't see an answer here, but I'll tell you how *I* would go about > > implementing this: > > > 1. Switch to the Streaming API. Using Search in an application puts a strain > > on Twitter's servers and makes it difficult to Twitter to manage capacity. > > That's why it's rate-limited and why the rate limits aren't publicly > > disclosed. > > > 2. If your application is a desktop application, use User Streams. If it is > > a server, use User Streams on a desktop or the low-frequency free access to > > Streaming on a server to prototype and develop. Your target for a server > > will be Site Streams, but that's in closed beta at the moment IIRC. > > > 3. *Concurrently with development*, your business development / sales / > > marketing / planning people, or yourself, if it's a one-person shop, should > > be negotiating with Twitter for access to Site Streams, I'm assuming an > > "agile" development methodology - customer-in-the-loop - and one of the > > parties that needs to be in the loop is Twitter for Site Streams. You simply > > *can't* build an at-scale Twitter application without direct business > > discussions with Twitter! > > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Corey Ballou <ball...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I tried speaking with Ryan Sarver directly, but he's forwarding me > > > here to the community advocates to answer. I believe this answer will > > > need to come top down from Twitter, as it's your rate limiting that > > > I'm most worried about. > > > > I have a technical question for all of you in regards to the Search > > > API as I want to maintain full compliancy. Currently, the old Search > > > API implementation (albeit slower) provides a fuller result set and > > > allows for more flexibility in the types and combinations of searches > > > allowed. The manner I have developed my application would allow for a > > > number of daemonized worker instances running on different IP > > > addresses to make calls to the search API on behalf of the stored > > > OAuth credentials to avoid rate limiting issues. > > > > I had a conversation with the Pluggio developer in which he stated > > > Twitter had threatened to shutdown his application if he didn't switch > > > to a different implementation of the Search API. The problem indicated > > > was that he was performing searches for multiple Twitter accounts, > > > which is exactly my use case. Site streams does not make as much sense > > > for my application given the search queries I wish to perform and the > > > necessity for logical AND operations on geo-location. > > > > Do you foresee any problems with my current method of using different > > > IP addresses to stay under the rate limit? I'm trying to stay in full > > > compliance with Twitter's TOS and would love to find the most > > > applicable and API friendly solution. I know headway is being made > > > with Twitter's new search implementation so I would like to stay ahead > > > of the curve and not get myself stuck in a box. > > > > I still need a method for polling for new search results (say, every > > > 30 minutes, dependent upon the pricing plan) for non-logged in users. > > > > Below is a scaled down representation of how I'm currently handling > > > searches to help you decide the best plan of action: > > > > 1) Searches are performed on a rolling queue basis, say one search > > > every thirty minutes. There can be a finite number of searches per > > > Twitter user (say 5 searches per Twitter account). There can be any > > > number of Twitter accounts. > > > 2) Search results are stored locally for retrieval by a javascript > > > AJAX long-poller every minute to check for frequent changes. > > > 3) When a user visits the search results page and filters results, no > > > API calls to Twitter are made, only a local query is required > > > > Due to this process, the queue is constantly searching for the next > > > searches and mentions to perform. I foresee rate limiting concerns > > > cropping up with searches being performed for any number of users. > > > > Can you steer me in the right direction to avoid shutdown notices or > > > access revocation? > > > > Regards, > > > > Corey > > > @cballou > > > > -- > > > Twitter developer documentation and resources:http://dev.twitter.com/doc > > > API updates via Twitter:http://twitter.com/twitterapi > > > Issues/Enhancements Tracker: > > >http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/list > > > Change your membership to this group: > > >http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk > > > --http://twitter.com/znmebhttp://borasky-research.net > > > "A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems." -- Paul > > Erdős
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