Appliances.

I've been quite excited for quite a while now about Twitter's possibilities
in "the Internet of things". Imagine, for instance, wall sockets that tweet
their power consumption. Bathroom scales that tweet your weight.

We've started talking to chip manufacturers about the development price of a
"Twitter on a chip" type of implementation. Fortunately we're not too far
down that path yet.

In this instance, I don't think Twitter is open minded enough about uses for
their platform which they did not think of themselves, which is quite the
opposite to their approach in the past.

Adriaan Pelzer

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On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Tom van der Woerdt <i...@tvdw.eu> wrote:

>  Can you name a modern device on which people will want a client with
> access to direct messages, without a webbrowser? I can't.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> On 5/19/11 5:17 PM, Adriaan Pelzer wrote:
>
> Understood. In other words, there is no way to consume the authenticated
> parts of the Twitter API on devices without web browsers anymore?
>
>  This severe limitation will haunt Twitter in future, without a doubt.
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> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Tom van der Woerdt <i...@tvdw.eu> wrote:
>
>>  Like I mentioned in my post - use the actual browser which includes an
>> address bar (that's what it's about - without the address bar the user
>> doesn't know it's actually twitter.com and you might just as well use
>> xAuth, lol). Use a callback URL which includes a custom scheme
>> (myapp://oauth_redirect, for example) and catch this URL in your code.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/19/11 4:58 PM, Adriaan Pelzer wrote:
>>
>> If using a UIWebView is against the TOS, how should app developers
>> (standalone apps, that is) authenticate without xauth, in the light of
>> yesterday's announcements?
>>
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>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Tom van der Woerdt <i...@tvdw.eu> wrote:
>>
>>>  1. Yep
>>> 2. NO. There's no difference in oauth/authorize and oauth/authenticate,
>>> except that authenticate will simply pass the "accept/deny" screen if the
>>> user has already accepted the app. Also, don't display it in a WebView, use
>>> the normal browser instead and use a callback URL with a custom scheme - for
>>> example myapp://. Let the browser redirect this URL back to the app. Again,
>>> do NOT use a UIWebView - I'm pretty sure that that's against the TOS, and if
>>> it's not, it soon will be.
>>> 3. Yep
>>> 4. Yes, you will need to store the consumer token and secret in the code,
>>> and store the user's token and secret in the keychain (or somewhere else,
>>> secure).
>>>
>>> The OAuth flow is no different for mobile devices than for desktops.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/19/11 4:45 PM, Andrew W. Donoho wrote:
>>>
>>> Gentle Twitter Support Folks,
>>>
>>>  There is an ambiguity in the OAuth flow for mobile devices. As I now
>>> have little time to move from xAuth to OAuth, I would appreciate it if
>>> Twitter Support would confirm the following OAuth flow which uses your
>>> routes.
>>>
>>>  1) Use "POST oauth/request_token" to get the access token needed for
>>> the user web dialog.
>>>
>>>  2) Upon receiving the request token, open a web view using "GET
>>> oauth/authorize". This is the ambiguous path for mobile devices. It is
>>> specified that this path must be used for desktop devices. As a mobile
>>> device is really a wireless desktop device, I believe Twitter wants me to
>>> use this route in lieu of "GET oauth/authenticate". Other vendors also allow
>>> the specification of whether this is a mobile device. They then provide a
>>> web authorization dialog appropriate for a narrow screen. It does not appear
>>> that Twitter offers this functionality. Could you please confirm this?
>>> Finally, as my app runs on an iPad, what is the preferred web view width?
>>> (To support both portrait and landscape orientations, it needs to be less
>>> than 768 pixels. 600 pixels is a common, Apple suggested, width.) Could you
>>> please enlighten me to what is Twitter's preferred authorization web view
>>> width?
>>>
>>>  3) Use "GET oauth/authenticate" to acquire the access token and access
>>> secret.
>>>
>>>  4) As I haven't yet requested my new consumer key and, hence, do not
>>> know some things, will I also be maintaining a consumer secret for my OAuth
>>> signature mechanism?
>>>
>>>  Thank you for your support.
>>>
>>>
>>>         Anon,
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>  P.S. Thank you for the two week extension for our xAuth to OAuth
>>> transition. Because Apple may still reject my app for unrelated to Twitter
>>> issues, four weeks is still a totally inadequate period to ensure a zero
>>> downtime transition. Please recognize both the risks to our business and the
>>> hardship you are imposing on small organizations. Furthermore, Apple's WWDC
>>> conference occurs in the middle of your current conversion schedule, this
>>> only allows me, in effect, 3 weeks to make this change. You can really hurt
>>> us with your imposed schedule. While I doubt that is your intent, it is,
>>> nonetheless, a likely outcome. Please double, at least, your conversion
>>> period to 8 weeks.
>>>
>>>  ____________________________________
>>> Andrew W. Donoho
>>> Donoho Design Group, L.L.C.
>>>  a...@ddg.com, +1 (512) 750-7596, twitter.com/adonoho
>>>
>>>  "When you can't imagine how things are going to change,
>>>     that doesn't mean that nothing will change.
>>>         It means that things will change in ways that are unimaginable."
>>>             Bruce Sterling, January 02, 2009
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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