Hi Christopher This is right, you can learn a lot of things and you can delete the rest - but the point here is that at the moment nearly each message we send to the mailinglist server gets replied by an error message that the message could not be submitted - but actually it is also appearing on the list.
It is more a technical or human resource and qualification problem of those people and infrastructure who manage the mailing list server. Those messages which are really annoying could be solved easily if somebody would simply doing it and only those people who have access to the mailing server might be able doing it! If not it would be advised that the assoiciation changes the mailing list server to a better hoster who has qualified people to manage this huge amount of traffic. @Dimitry We had this discussion before so we don't need to talk over this again and again. Right now it is more and more obvious that nearly everything gets managed by punkt.de - but TYPO3 is a Community stuff and not related to punkt.de. Huge traffic is also a good thing to get leads to get "free advertising" and more. I am really wondering why always punkt.de gets all those stuff and no other company! IMHO it would be much better if more people could get involved also in the hosting stuff. Punkt.de might be a nice Partner for TYPO3 but I am sure that out there are a lot of others who also would take the role of punkt.de or share it with others! Since this year - and it comes together with the repository and mailinglist problems - when punkt.de tries to concentrate everything related to TYPO3 on their servers it seems that this is simply to much for them. They can't manage such amount! So it would be advised to split it up again. A project like TYPO3 needs to be reliable and having good connections, especially since other CMS and Open Source Solutions are catching up faster and faster. So errors in the repository or document server like in the last months shouldn't happen so often like they do right now and also the mailinglist shouldn't be a spam-producer in error-messages which actually send out errors even there wasn't an error. TYPO3 is a community based project and that's what it should be also in future, therefore integrate the community instead of promoting more and more "the one and only" Companies or People. I guess many people don't know what is all managed where - and who is responsible for what, so perhaps someone could list it here. Mailinglist is Luc de Louw like Stefen just wrote Repository? Documentations not published in TER even they are there? ... Andi 2008/9/7 Christopher Torgalson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi, > > On 7-Sep-08, at 10:24 AM, Dmitry Dulepov [typo3] wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > ries van Twisk wrote: > >> I am glad that I am not the only one with this problem. May be we > >> should > >> escalate this to the > >> association and them talk to the punkt people?? > > > > So, newsreader is absolutely not an option? > > Speaking for myself, I am far more likely to try to answer questions > on the list if they show up in my inbox--and as my mail client is not > also a newsreader, there's not much chance of my starting up an > application that is *never* used for any other purpose just to answer > questions on the newsgroup. In other words: for a lot of people, > receiving, reading and responding to email messages is part of the > daily workflow, but reading and posting to newsgroups is not. This is > why some people *like* the mailing list. > > Besides that, over the years I've learned an *incredible* amount of > TYPO3-related things just by reading the messages that show up in my > inbox on a daily basis. I think subscribing to the mailing list is a > pretty great way to learn about TYPO3 (if you can handle the number of > messages it sends out!) > > -- > Christopher Torgalson > http://www.typo3apprentice.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TYPO3-english mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english > -- Thanks a lot! Greetings from ICT Innovation Paradise Andi Blog: http://andibecker.blogspot.com Map: http://tinyurl.com/6a4bg5 Album: http://picasaweb.google.com/cocopapa Videos: http://tinyurl.com/5vs389 Projects: http://www/t3log.info T3Pack - TYPO3 Development, TEAM 3 - Eternal Project Management LisAndi Co. Ltd. - The future is within us! POWER4 - The empowering people! _______________________________________________ TYPO3-english mailing list [email protected] http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
