On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 at 15:07, Brooks Harris via tz <[email protected]> wrote:

> As Paul Eggert pointed out on the list:
> Re: [tz] Tzdb and the Sunshine Protection Act, 2023-03-02
> …
> My biggest worry is the set of backward compatibility zones EST5EDT,
> CST6CDT, MST7MDT, PST8PDT as their continued use would lead to so much
> confusion that they'd be more trouble than they're worth.
>

That certainly would remain a general concern for this project and the
software ecosystem.  But "half-daylight time" would additionally break a
lot of viable workarounds for other devices:

In particular, radio-controlled clocks sold in the continental US which
obtain UTC-timestamped signals from WWVB are generally configurable to a
narrow range of integer offsets from UTC, and DST observance can usually be
disabled on most such devices.  Some may include −4 for AST which would
help residents in a permanent EDT situation, but in general no available
setting would accommodate "half-daylight zones" like −4½, −5½, etc.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 at 22:09, David Braverman via tz <[email protected]> wrote:

> One thing I don't see in any of these proposals: simply _adjusting the
> boundaries._ In the US, and I would expect in Canada also, states and
> provinces are free to divide themselves between time zones.


Unlike in Canada, where timezones are strictly a provincial or territorial
matter, US states are NOT actually free to self-select their timezones.
Either the US Department of Transportation can change boundaries (in
response to proposals from state/local governments) or Congress can
legislate new boundaries.  (States' only real say in the matter relates to
opting out of DST observance, and even that is a bit specific in how
exactly it can be done.)

Since "permanent standard time" is equivalent to "permanent daylight time
in the next zone westward", I do suspect that such shifts could likely gain
more public acceptance if accompanied by thoughtful boundary adjustments,
though bringing dividing lines through new areas brings about its own
issues.

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Tim Parenti

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