Hi Iain,

On 12/14/2014 04:52 PM, Iain Paton wrote:
On 13/12/14 17:03, Eric Bénard wrote:
Hi Nikolay,

Le Sat, 13 Dec 2014 18:05:15 +0200,
Nikolay Dimitrov <picmas...@mail.bg> a écrit :
On 12/13/2014 04:16 PM, Eric Bénard wrote:

This will increase the boot time by 2 seconds : why is that needed ?

Thanks for commenting. My intent is to give by default a reasonable
time for the end-user to react and break the boot-sequence if needed
(and avoid the nasty racing against the clock for this precious
key-press).

My motivation for this is that I see RIoTboard/MarsBoard mostly as
boards that people can use for experimentation/prototyping, and not as
a finished end-product, thus my thinking that the slightly increased
boot-time won't be a critical issue for such applications. Still
everyone can change the delay at will if they want to optimize the boot.

Other hobby boards also have similarly handy boot-timings, like
Wandboard (5s), Novena (5s), Udoo (3s).

OK seems reasonable.

I disagree. I think it's an unnecessary, unneeded, unreasonable tripling
of the boot time.

I have 2 things to say about this:
1. In theory we can also question why the initial boot delay was selected to be 1s. 2. You imply that the "users" want ultra-fast boot times for riotboard. Being myself one of the riotboard users, I can assure you that such generalization is excessive.

Rather than leaving people to patch out this unwanted behaviour, I'd suggest
promoting CONFIG_BOOTDELAY into a Kconfig option, leaving the default as-is.

This is a good idea in general, I don't mind it.

This also leads to a slightly less unreasonable increase in bootdelay to 2s
from config_distro_defaults.h

Well, this is again subjective - we can always argue that 2s is both too long and too short for selected use cases, so I don't understand the qualification "less unreasonable".

In summary - I won't carry a war for this change, as it doesn't worth it. I just tried to contribute a tiny bit of improvement to the already excellent work of Eric, so we can have a silk-smooth out-of-the-box U-Boot user experience, and I'm doing this as an actual riotboard user. That's all.

Thanks for sharing your viewpoint.

Kind regards,
Nikolay
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