On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote:

> > 
> > and this is why i dislike the GPLv3.  the GPLv2 was all about the
> source, so 
> > the conversation between developers and everyone else was "you can
> take my 
> > source and modify it all you want, but i want to see the changes".
> sounds 
> > fair.
> > 
> > GPLv3 (ignoring the fix for the loophole with web applications) adds
> *nothing* 
> > to this premise.  instead, it's used as an ideological club such that
> the 
> > conversation is now "i have all these ideas about how software should
> and 
> > shouldnt be utilized, so if you want to use my software, you too now
> have to 
> > subscribe to my way of thinking and you have to show me the changes".
> > 
> > so what does moving from GPLv2 to GPLv3 gain us in terms of
> protections ?  
> > nothing.  it does however allow us to restrict the people who want to
> use u-
> > boot to using it in only ways we've "blessed".  that's plain wrong in
> my eyes 
> > and none of our business in the first place.
> > 
> > > I think it is not a coincidence that devices which can be updated
> with
> > > arbitrary firmware sells pretty good in the meantime.   Who buys
> routers
> > > capable of running OpenWRT because of their original firmware?
> > 
> > then let your wallet/politicians do the talking.  i certainly do -- i
> avoid 
> > purchasing any music/games encumbered with DRM, or companies that
> employ such 
> > methods.  but i'm above going around and forcing people to think the
> way i do 
> > with licenses.

> agreed with Mike.

Second that.

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