Hi Simon,
Am Donnerstag, 25. April 2019, 00:26:28 CEST schrieb Simon Glass:
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 10:47, Heiko Stübner <he...@sntech.de> wrote:
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, 18. April 2019, 08:35:49 CEST schrieb Philipp Tomsich:
> > > Simon,
> > >
> > > > On 18.04.2019, at 06:32, Simon Glass <s...@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Kever,
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 02:21, Kever Yang <kever.y...@rock-chips.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Rockchip platform suppose to use TPL(run in SRAM) as dram init and
> > > >> SPL(run in DDR SDRAM) as pre-loader, so that the SPL would not be
> > > >> limited by SRAM size.
> > > >> This patch add rk3399-board-tpl.c and its common configs.
> > > >
> > > > So this means that TPL inits SDRAM? That seems strange to me...why
> > > > have SPL at all, then? What is SPL supported to do on RK3399
> > > > platforms?
> > >
> > > For TPL->SPL implementation on Rockchip, we generally rely on the BootROM
> > > to load the TPL stage (to SRAM) and the SPL stage (to the start of DRAM).
> > > The
> > > BootROM usually limits the size of the SPL stage, so we can’t use a full
> > > U-Boot
> > > already.
> > >
> > > Even more constricting are the TPL size constraints (as this seems to
> > > have originally
> > > only been intended to be size-optimized DRAM init code) on some devices.
> >
> > and maybe for a broader functionality description, something needs to
> > load things like ATF via a FIT image from a mmc for example.
> > (which needs FIT code and also real mmc drivers).
> >
> > And as we experienced on rk3288 as well recently, SRAM may be very well
> > too small to accomplish that, so TPL needs to init the sdram separately
> > to make room for the code needed to get ATF up and running, which must
> > be done before jumping into proper uboot.
>
> I have to ask what the boot ROM is buying us? U-Boot TPL/SPL can load
> programs itself without the boot ROM and its size limit. Why not just
> stop using the boot ROM on these devices?
The problem is more that the sram is to small to hold mmc + fit + everything
else. So we need at least on some socs
bootrom -> tpl (in sram) -> sdram init -> bootrom -> spl (in ddr)
(1) -> load fit with u-boot and atf binaries -> jump to ATF -> jump to
uboot
or in falcon mode for vyasa for example
(2) -> load linux directly -> jump to Linux
Heiko
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