On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 16:08, Simon Glass <s...@chromium.org> wrote: > Hi François, > > On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 00:07, François Ozog <francois.o...@linaro.org> > wrote: > > > > Hi Simon > > > > Position unchanged on this series: adding fake dts for boards that > generate their device tree in the dts directory is not good. If you have > them in documentation the it is acceptable. > > I think we are going to have to disagree on this one. I actually used > the qemu one in testing/development recently. We have to have a way to > develop in-tree with U-Boot. It does not impinge on any of your use > cases, so far as I know. > I am not the only one in disagreement... You just saw Alex Bénée from Qemu saying the same thing. I understand the advanced debug/development scenario you mention. But locating the DT files in the dts directory is mis-leading the contributors to think that they need to compile the DT for the targeted platforms. For your advanced scenario, you can still have the dts in the documentation area, or whatever directory (except dts). compile it and supply to U-Boot.
> > But trying to do any driver / core work for a board where you don't > have the devicetree is currently not possible. The devicetree is a > core component and being unable to modify it is simply not practical. > We are talking here about an option that can be enabled or disabled. > In my case I am able to disable it locally and do my development work. > BTW I've got the bloblist handoff working with a devicetree inside it, > for qemu_arm. I need to try it on a real board to figure out what the > difference is. > > That's great news and much needed for stabilizing the inbound ABI from prior loader to U-Boot. Let's create another thread to discuss this important topic. > Regards, > Simon > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > FF > > > > Le mar. 26 oct. 2021 à 02:24, Simon Glass <s...@chromium.org> a écrit : > >> > >> With Ilias' efforts we have dropped OF_PRIOR_STAGE and OF_HOSTFILE so > >> there are only three ways to obtain a devicetree: > >> > >> - OF_SEPARATE - the normal way, where the devicetree is built and > >> appended to U-Boot > >> - OF_EMBED - for development purposes, the devicetree is embedded in > >> the ELF file (also used for EFI) > >> - OF_BOARD - the board figures it out on its own > >> > >> The last one is currently set up so that no devicetree is needed at all > >> in the U-Boot tree. Most boards do provide one, but some don't. Some > >> don't even provide instructions on how to boot on the board. > >> > >> The problems with this approach are documented in another patch in this > >> series: "doc: Add documentation about devicetree usage" > >> > >> In practice, OF_BOARD is not really distinct from OF_SEPARATE. Any board > >> can obtain its devicetree at runtime, even it is has a devicetree built > >> in U-Boot. This is because U-Boot may be a second-stage bootloader and > its > >> caller may have a better idea about the hardware available in the > machine. > >> This is the case with a few QEMU boards, for example. > >> > >> So it makes no sense to have OF_BOARD as a 'choice'. It should be an > >> option, available with either OF_SEPARATE or OF_EMBED. > >> > >> This series makes this change, adding various missing devicetree files > >> (and placeholders) to make the build work. > >> > >> Note: If board maintainers are able to add their own patch to add the > >> files, some patches in this series can be dropped. > >> > >> It also provides a few qemu clean-ups discovered along the way. > >> > >> Note: This breaks the qemu-riscv64_spl test, which still needs > >> investigation. > >> > >> [1] > https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/patch/20210919215111.3830278-3-...@chromium.org/ > >> > >> Changes in v5: > >> - Bring into the OF_BOARD series > >> - Rebase to master and drop mention of OF_PRIOR_STAGE, since removed > >> - Refer to the 'control' DTB in the first paragraph > >> - Use QEMU instead of qemu > >> - Merge RISC-V and ARM patches since they are similar > >> - Add new patches to clean up fdtdec_setup() and surrounds > >> > >> Changes in v3: > >> - Clarify the 'bug' refered to at the top > >> - Reword 'This means that there' paragraph to explain U-Boot-specific > things > >> - Move to doc/develop/devicetree now that OF_CONTROL is in the docs > >> > >> Changes in v2: > >> - Fix typos per Sean (thank you!) and a few others > >> - Add a 'Use of U-Boot /config node' section > >> - Drop mention of dm-verity since that actually uses the kernel cmdline > >> - Explain that OF_BOARD will still work after these changes (in > >> 'Once this bug is fixed...' paragraph) > >> - Expand a bit on the reason why the 'Current situation' is bad > >> - Clarify in a second place that Linux and U-Boot use the same > devicetree > >> in 'To be clear, while U-Boot...' > >> - Expand on why we should have rules for other projects in > >> 'Devicetree in another project' > >> - Add a comment as to why devicetree in U-Boot is not 'bad design' > >> - Reword 'in-tree U-Boot devicetree' to 'devicetree source in U-Boot' > >> - Rewrite 'Devicetree generated on-the-fly in another project' to cover > >> points raised on v1 > >> - Add 'Why does U-Boot have its nodes and properties?' > >> - Add 'Why not have two devicetrees?' > >> > >> Ilias Apalodimas (1): > >> sandbox: Remove OF_HOSTFILE > >> > >> Simon Glass (25): > >> doc: Add documentation about devicetree usage > >> arm: qemu: Mention -nographic in the docs > >> arm: riscv: qemu: Explain how to extract the generated dt > >> arm: qemu: Add a devicetree file for qemu_arm > >> arm: qemu: Add a devicetree file for qemu_arm64 > >> riscv: qemu: Add devicetree files for qemu_riscv32/64 > >> arm: rpi: Add a devicetree file for rpi_4 > >> arm: vexpress: Add a devicetree file for juno > >> arm: xenguest_arm64: Add a fake devicetree file > >> arm: octeontx: Add a fake devicetree file > >> arm: xilinx_versal_virt: Add a devicetree file > >> arm: bcm7xxx: Add a devicetree file > >> arm: qemu-ppce500: Add a devicetree file > >> arm: highbank: Add a fake devicetree file > >> fdt: Make OF_BOARD a bool option > >> Drop CONFIG_BINMAN_STANDALONE_FDT > >> doc: Update info on devicetree update > >> fdt: Move MULTI_DTB_FIT handling out of fdtdec_setup() > >> fdt: Drop #ifdefs with MULTI_DTB_FIT > >> fdt: Drop CONFIG_SPL_BUILD check in fdtdec_setup() > >> fdt: Drop #ifdef around board_fdt_blob_setup() > >> fdt: Use if() for fdtcontroladdr check > >> fdt: Drop OF_CONTROL check in fdtdec_setup() > >> fdt: Drop remaining preprocessor macros in fdtdec_setup() > >> fdt: Don't call board_fdt_blob_setup() without OF_BOARD > >> > >> Makefile | 7 +- > >> arch/arm/dts/Makefile | 20 +- > >> arch/arm/dts/bcm2711-rpi-4-b.dts | 1958 +++++++++++++++++++++ > >> arch/arm/dts/bcm7xxx.dts | 15 + > >> arch/arm/dts/highbank.dts | 14 + > >> arch/arm/dts/juno-r2.dts | 1038 +++++++++++ > >> arch/arm/dts/octeontx.dts | 14 + > >> arch/arm/dts/qemu-arm.dts | 402 +++++ > >> arch/arm/dts/qemu-arm64.dts | 381 ++++ > >> arch/arm/dts/xenguest-arm64.dts | 15 + > >> arch/arm/dts/xilinx-versal-virt.dts | 307 ++++ > >> arch/powerpc/dts/Makefile | 1 + > >> arch/powerpc/dts/qemu-ppce500.dts | 264 +++ > >> arch/riscv/dts/Makefile | 2 +- > >> arch/riscv/dts/qemu-virt.dts | 8 - > >> arch/riscv/dts/qemu-virt32.dts | 217 +++ > >> arch/riscv/dts/qemu-virt64.dts | 217 +++ > >> arch/sandbox/cpu/cpu.c | 21 +- > >> arch/sandbox/include/asm/u-boot-sandbox.h | 8 - > >> configs/bcm7260_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/bcm7445_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/highbank_defconfig | 2 +- > >> configs/octeontx2_95xx_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/octeontx2_96xx_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/octeontx_81xx_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/octeontx_83xx_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/qemu-ppce500_defconfig | 2 + > >> configs/qemu-riscv32_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/qemu-riscv32_smode_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/qemu-riscv32_spl_defconfig | 4 +- > >> configs/qemu-riscv64_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/qemu-riscv64_smode_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/qemu-riscv64_spl_defconfig | 3 +- > >> configs/qemu_arm64_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/qemu_arm_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/rpi_4_32b_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/rpi_4_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/rpi_arm64_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/sandbox64_defconfig | 2 +- > >> configs/sandbox_defconfig | 2 +- > >> configs/sandbox_flattree_defconfig | 2 +- > >> configs/sandbox_noinst_defconfig | 2 +- > >> configs/sandbox_spl_defconfig | 2 +- > >> configs/tools-only_defconfig | 2 +- > >> configs/vexpress_aemv8a_juno_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/xenguest_arm64_defconfig | 1 + > >> configs/xilinx_versal_virt_defconfig | 1 + > >> doc/board/emulation/qemu-arm.rst | 10 +- > >> doc/board/emulation/qemu-riscv.rst | 3 + > >> doc/develop/devicetree/control.rst | 7 +- > >> doc/develop/devicetree/dt_qemu.rst | 48 + > >> doc/develop/devicetree/dt_update.rst | 498 ++++++ > >> doc/develop/devicetree/index.rst | 2 + > >> dts/Kconfig | 37 +- > >> include/asm-generic/global_data.h | 8 + > >> include/fdtdec.h | 21 +- > >> lib/fdtdec.c | 116 +- > >> scripts/Makefile.spl | 4 +- > >> tools/binman/binman.rst | 20 - > >> 59 files changed, 5560 insertions(+), 164 deletions(-) > >> create mode 100644 arch/arm/dts/bcm2711-rpi-4-b.dts > >> create mode 100644 arch/arm/dts/bcm7xxx.dts > >> create mode 100644 arch/arm/dts/highbank.dts > >> create mode 100644 arch/arm/dts/juno-r2.dts > >> create mode 100644 arch/arm/dts/octeontx.dts > >> create mode 100644 arch/arm/dts/qemu-arm.dts > >> create mode 100644 arch/arm/dts/qemu-arm64.dts > >> create mode 100644 arch/arm/dts/xenguest-arm64.dts > >> create mode 100644 arch/arm/dts/xilinx-versal-virt.dts > >> create mode 100644 arch/powerpc/dts/qemu-ppce500.dts > >> delete mode 100644 arch/riscv/dts/qemu-virt.dts > >> create mode 100644 arch/riscv/dts/qemu-virt32.dts > >> create mode 100644 arch/riscv/dts/qemu-virt64.dts > >> create mode 100644 doc/develop/devicetree/dt_qemu.rst > >> create mode 100644 doc/develop/devicetree/dt_update.rst > >> > >> -- > >> 2.33.0.1079.g6e70778dc9-goog > >> > > -- > > François-Frédéric Ozog | Director Business Development > > T: +33.67221.6485 > > francois.o...@linaro.org | Skype: ffozog > > > -- François-Frédéric Ozog | *Director Business Development* T: +33.67221.6485 francois.o...@linaro.org | Skype: ffozog
