On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 4:52 PM Wolfgang Denk <w...@denx.de> wrote:
>
> Dear Artem,
>
> In message 
> <CAKaHn9+yL3naiDqbsQJWQ0Po=g=tmjjcpskxkx5c4ay1m1a...@mail.gmail.com> you 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > next examples just demonstrate how its works for already defined env
> > > > variables which contain other variables (like storred env variables)
> > >
> > > Which next examples?
> >
> > Usage examples (from commit message):
> >
> > => setenv a hello; setenv b world; setenv c '${a} ${b}'
> > => setenv -r d '${c}! ${a}...'
> > => printenv d
> > d=hello world! hello...
>
> This is a very simple example, and I showed you how you can solve
> this one by just omitting the apostrophes:
>
> => setenv a hello; setenv b world; setenv c ${a} ${b}
> => setenv d ${c}! ${a}...
> => printenv d
> d=hello world! hello...
>

sure i know it and its easy, but we still have some misunderstanding,
and i will try explain again our problem

our problem (TASK)

we have:
some env variables which already defined and we totally dont know
about content ( for example its was improved by `env import` or loaded
from env storage  and  "setenv a hello; setenv b world; setenv c '${a}
${b}'; setenv d '${c}! ${a}...' ;"  just example how emulate this env
state )

we need:
setup/resolve env variable for example from d (and need resolve all
sub included vars)
=> setenv -r e $d
=> printenv e
=> e=hello world! hello...

please explain how we can get it without -r (deep resolve option) via
standard way ?


>
> I _think_ what you actually have in mind is something like this:
>
> => setenv a hello
> => setenv b world
> => setenv c '${a} ${b}'
> => setenv a goodbye
> => setenv b sunshine
>
> something to set d to: '${c}! ${a}...'
>
> => printenv d
>
> Here my simple approach does not show what you want to have:
>
> => setenv a hello
> => setenv b world
> => setenv c ${a} ${b}
> => setenv a goodbye
> => setenv b sunshine
> => setenv d ${c}! ${a}...
> => printenv d
> d=hello world! goodbye...
>
> That's because here evaluation takes place at assignment, but you
> want it when used - but being recursive here is neither a good idea
> nor standard.
>
> How would you do it in a standard posix shell?  You would have to
> use "eval", like that:
>
> $ a=hello
> $ b=world
> $ c='${a} ${b}'
> $ a=goodbye
> $ b=sunshine
> $ d=$(eval echo $c)
> $ echo $d
> goodbye sunshine
>
> But please note that "eval" is _not_ recursive!!
>
> $ a='$b'
> $ eval echo $c
> $b sunshine
>
> And this is why I object against this patch.
>
> Oh, and in U-Boot you could write this as:
>
> => setenv a hello
> => setenv b world
> => setenv c '${a} ${b}'
> => setenv a goodbye
> => setenv b sunshine
> => setenv foo "setenv d ${c}! ${a}..."
> => run foo
> => printenv d
> d=goodbye sunshine! goodbye...
>
> And yes, here you have to be careful about using ' or " as there is
> no recursion like you might expect.
>
> So yes, it would be nice if we had "eval" (which will ocme with the
> hush update), and no, "eval" does not recurse either.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Wolfgang Denk
>
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