Hi Simon

On 11/03/23 02:19, Simon Glass wrote:
Hi,

On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 21:35, Neha Malcom Francis <n-fran...@ti.com> wrote:

Hi Andrew, Simon

On 01/03/23 22:41, Andrew Davis wrote:
On 2/28/23 9:10 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
Hi Neha,

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 02:50, Neha Malcom Francis <n-fran...@ti.com>
wrote:

Hi Simon,

On 28/02/23 06:05, Simon Glass wrote:
Hi Neha,

On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 at 05:03, Neha Malcom Francis <n-fran...@ti.com>
wrote:

core-secdev-k3 is the TI security development package provided for K3
platform devices. This tool helps sign bootloader images with the x509
ceritificate header.

Signed-off-by: Neha Malcom Francis <n-fran...@ti.com>
---
This patch depends on
https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/patch/20230224115101.563729-1-n-fran...@ti.com/
and on ongoing development in
https://git.ti.com/cgit/security-development-tools/core-secdev-k3

    tools/binman/btool/tisecuretool.py            |  72 +++++++++++
    tools/binman/etype/ti_secure.py               | 114
++++++++++++++++++
    tools/binman/ftest.py                         |  36 ++++++
    tools/binman/test/278_ti_secure_rom.dts       |  11 ++
    tools/binman/test/279_ti_secure.dts           |  11 ++
    .../binman/test/280_ti_secure_nofilename.dts  |  10 ++
    tools/binman/test/281_ti_secure_combined.dts  |  12 ++
    7 files changed, 266 insertions(+)
    create mode 100644 tools/binman/btool/tisecuretool.py
    create mode 100644 tools/binman/etype/ti_secure.py
    create mode 100644 tools/binman/test/278_ti_secure_rom.dts
    create mode 100644 tools/binman/test/279_ti_secure.dts
    create mode 100644 tools/binman/test/280_ti_secure_nofilename.dts
    create mode 100644 tools/binman/test/281_ti_secure_combined.dts

Now that I see what you are doing, this it not quite the right way.

See this hack-up of how you can call the openssl thing. Basically you
should not have a shell script in the way, but instead make your
bintool do it.

https://github.com/sjg20/u-boot/commit/03c0d74f81106570b18d8e4fe7a3355bfeb0d5da#r100378804

I suppose we can have an openssl bintool that others build on top of?

Regards,
Simon



That is possible, maybe ti-secure extends from x509_cert etype so as to
support the TI specific certificate extensions. I'll start working on
this.

However the patches I've sent support external production flow where
signing need not necessarily be carried out from U-Boot. An external
repo that acts as what is core-secdev-k3 here, would be the repo
responsible for signing.

Could we find a way to combine both so as to support production flow
mandating an external agency, as well as a completely within U-Boot flow
using bintool? i.e. we modify ti-secure etype to be able to support both
external git repo/executable script signing as well as default signing
using openssl bintool.

Yes that seems important.

One option is to have binman emit some instructions on how to sign the
image, perhaps a simple data format similar to an fdtmap, with a basic
shell script plus whatever the etype provides. Then the signer can
follow the instructions or run the script.

Another option is to run binman on the signer and have it do the
signing. Would that work?


I'd like to keep the dependencies needed on the signing server as
minimal as possible. We do require the "u-boot-tools" package on
the key servers if folks want to re-package signed FIT images, so
if binman could be reasonably packaged in that package someday
it could be an option.

At present binman is packaged as binary-manager (with 'pip install').
Is that good enough? We could add it to u-boot-tools, perhaps, but I
have found that packing Python things together with non-Python things
seems to be tricky. We gave up with libfdt and ended up using a
separate package for pylibfdt.


For now, if binman could generate the x509 file and leave it with the
other boot artifacts then if one needs to re-sign with real keys they
will only need to have openssl sign that cert and append to the image
on the key server, that is simple enough document.

I sent a patch to add x509 cert using the openssl tool[1]. If there is
more needed, can you take a look or let me know what is missing?


I had looked at the patch and I think it should support custom certificates as well. I think an x509 etype should be able to produce a general certificate like what you have done, as well as have the capability to add more extensions, change parameters etc. I am thinking of a template and dict sort of method where you pass your custom template as well as a dict/config file containing parameter:parameter-valye pairs for the etype to fill in, does that sound okay? Then in use cases like ours where there's more done we could extend this etype and use that parse-and-replace mechanism for our certificate.


The more difficult part is in re-packaging these signed images.
Our security tools already have a tool to disasemble a FIT image,
sign the components, then re-assemble it[0]. This would work for
u-boot.img and the kernel FIT images, but we would need something
new for re-assembling boot3.bin and tispl.bin. The first boot files
(boot3.bin) is also more complex that simple FIT images in that it
has several variations in format and content based on device family
and type.

The ideal case would be we do not need to pull in the TI security tools
package at all and we could drop this patch. The tools would then only be
needed by folks wanting to sign their images using an external key
server.

Yes, that seems to be the bare minimum of what we should reach here.
Any tools we need should be available in 'binman tool -l' and be
fetchable / buildable with binman. It is such a pain for users if
everyone does their own thing. It is even more difficult for people
who develop U-Boot generally, since they just want to build and run.
For example, in my lab I want to be able to build U-Boot in a generic
way and have it boot on a board.


If we could have binman learn how to generate/template x509 certs and
have it sign them with openssl, plus add the TI dummy[1] and degenerate[2]
keys to the u-boot source repo, then we would not need TI security
tools any more here.

OK, see the patch.


This might be a longer term goal though, and I think we are already
trying to do too much all at once as is. Perhaps we could take
this current solution posted here with the intent to remove it in
the near future. Thoughts?

IMO the problem here is starting with shell scripts. They are OK for
hacking but we are trying to use a data-driven image description,
rather than having a lot of shell scripts.

It took ages to remove the SPL_FIT_GENERATOR stuff


Andrew

[0]
https://git.ti.com/cgit/security-development-tools/core-secdev-k3/tree/scripts/fit-image-secure.sh
[1]
https://git.ti.com/cgit/security-development-tools/core-secdev-k3/tree/keys/custMpk.pem
[2]
https://git.ti.com/cgit/security-development-tools/core-secdev-k3/tree/keys/ti-degenerate-key.pem


I think leaving the boot artifacts while going with the current solution
would be a better option. As Andrew mentioned, the complexity mainly
comes with the way our tiboot3.bin is packaged. It seems cleaner for now
to go with this since this patch series is only a part in the larger
series of packaging all the bootloader images.

   I will take future action to eventually completely remove using TI
security tools. What do you think, Simon?

I am not convinced. We still have SPL_FIT_GENERATOR after 5 years.

Can we not just do this work now? I am happy to help on the binman
side, but I have not heard back on the series I sent, so I am not sure
what is missing.

[..]
Regards,
Simon

[1] 
https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/patch/20230303000246.2640473-4-...@chromium.org/

--
Thanking You
Neha Malcom Francis

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