On 11/6/23 11:47 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
Hi Andrew,

On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 at 10:27, Andrew Davis <a...@ti.com> wrote:

On 11/6/23 9:31 AM, Tom Rini wrote:
On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 11:23:51AM +0530, Manorit Chawdhry wrote:
Hi Simon,

On 11:22-20231005, Simon Glass wrote:
Hi Nishanth,

On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 at 11:16, Nishanth Menon <n...@ti.com> wrote:

On 12:10-20231005, Nishanth Menon wrote:
On 12:36-20231005, Tom Rini wrote:
On Thu, Oct 05, 2023 at 09:19:48AM -0500, Andrew Davis wrote:
On 10/4/23 8:54 AM, Nishanth Menon wrote:
On 08:48-20231004, Andrew Davis wrote:
On 10/4/23 8:23 AM, Roger Quadros wrote:
ti_mmc is not a valid boot_target for standard boot flow so

Is there some way to make it into a valid boot_target? Otherwise
how do we use uEnv.txt files, or boot from FIT images with overlays?

envboot takes care of uEnv.txt file (see
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20231004132324.44198-3-rog...@kernel.org/)

Early remote proc loading and FIT image is a question for stdboot itself.


If stdboot is missing these features then we shouldn't switch until it
has them. I'm all for switching to this, but only if it is complete.

Depends on what you mean?  Did you mean an option to run scripts
(exists) or an option to do what TI needs done, via
boot/bootmeth_something.c ?  If the latter, someone from TI needs to
figure out what that should be and do (but plumbing-wise everything it
needs should exist).

Andrew is generalizing here (on the wrong patch though).

On am62x platforms, there is nothing regressing with this series. The
challenge is early remote_proc loading which is done for J7* platforms.

How that is initiated as part of bootmethods is something of a gap.

The other gap has been support for uEnv.txt -> which we can workaround
at the moment by using CONFIG_BOOTCOMMAND="run envboot; bootflow scan
-lb" in defconfig (This series from Roger already does that - hence I am
saying that Andrew is complaining on the wrong series).

Ideally, we should just have CONFIG_BOOTCOMMAND="bootflow scan -lb" and
uEnv.txt remoteproc loads and the various standard bootmethods should
"just work".


I forgot to add: FIT image authenticated boot flow. That is really what
ti_mmc distroboot method was trying to solve.

Maybe Simon or someone know how the stdboot flow handles authenticated
kernel image and dtb boot flow with FIT image?

Yes you can use FIT configuration verification and things should work as normal.


Could you give any reference documentation for this?

I suspect you should start with doc/usage/fit/beaglebone_vboot.rst


  From that doc:

```
Boot the board using the commands below::

      setenv bootargs console=ttyO0,115200n8 quiet root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 ro 
rootfstype=ext4 rootwait
      ext2load mmc 0:2 82000000 /boot/image.fit
      bootm 82000000
```

This is very much not stdboot :( This doc has some good and current info on 
building
a secure FIT image, but much of it is showing its age. Stdboot is still missing

   * ability to limit boot mode search to only one image (FIT)

What does this mean? Can you please be more specific or give an example?


Sure, for instance with secure boot we only want to search for FIT images
and if for each media this fails we do not want to fall back to other
image types or boot modes (like UART boot or net boot which would bypass
the signature checks).

Something similar is needed for searching for EFI compatible boot across
each enabled boot media first, before trying other methods on each media.
Basically breadth-first search on each media type not depth-first.

   * fetching and applying FIT overlay/config strings

Re overlays, is this the 'extension' command? What are config strings?


When we have DT overlays in our FIT image, we build a string to pass to
bootm to apply all the selected overlays[0]. If there is now another
mechanism for this please let me know (building this string today is messy).

https://source.denx.de/u-boot/u-boot/-/blob/master/include/env/ti/ti_common.env?ref_type=heads#L18

   * remote proc loading

What command can do this?


https://source.denx.de/u-boot/u-boot/-/blob/master/include/env/ti/ti_common.env?ref_type=heads#L28

   * uEnv.txt processing

What command can do this?


run envboot;

https://source.denx.de/u-boot/u-boot/-/blob/master/include/env/ti/mmc.env?ref_type=heads#L20


Last two can be solved by adding to CONFIG_BOOTCOMMAND before calling `bootflow 
scan`
as suggested above. Until we figure out the first two I don't see us ready to 
switch.

I'm happy to help figure this out.


Thanks, we are eager to standardize our boot flows and stdboot seems like the
right way forward, very happy to have your guidance on these last few items :)

Andrew

Regards,
SImon

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