Hi Tom,

On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 11:22, Tom Rini <tr...@konsulko.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 08:41:39PM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > Also IMO there is only really one LMB list today. We create it at the
> > start of bootm and then it is done when we boot. The file-loading
> > stuff is what makes all this confusing...and with bootstd that is
> > under control as well.
> >
> > At lot of this effort seems to be about dealing with random scripts
> > which load things. We want to make sure we complain if something
> > overlaps. But we should be making the bootstd case work nicely and
> > doing things within that framework. Also EFI sort-of has its own
> > thing, which it is very-much in control of.
> >
> > Overall I think this is a bit more subtle that just combining allocators.
>
> I think this gets to the main misunderstanding. The problem isn't
> handling bootstd, or EFI boot, or even assorted scripts. Those are all
> cases where things are otherwise (sufficiently) well-defined. The
> problem is "security" and that a "carefully crafted payload" could do
> something malicious. That's why we have to do all of this stuff sooner
> rather than later in our boot process.

That's the first I have heard of this, actually, but a bit more detail
would help. How does the payload get loaded? I'm just not sure about
the overall goals. It seems that everyone else is already familiar -
can someone please take the time to point me to the details?

Regards,
Simon

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