Hi Sughosh,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 at 07:25, Sughosh Ganu <sughosh.g...@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 at 00:35, Tom Rini <tr...@konsulko.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 12:39:32PM +0100, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > Hi Sughosh,
> > >
> > > On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 at 10:39, Sughosh Ganu <sughosh.g...@linaro.org> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hi Simon,
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 at 20:46, Simon Glass <s...@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Sughosh,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 4 Jul 2024 at 08:38, Sughosh Ganu <sughosh.g...@linaro.org> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are events that would be used to notify other interested 
> > > > > > modules
> > > > > > of any changes in available and occupied memory. This would happen
> > > > > > when a module allocates or reserves memory, or frees up memory. 
> > > > > > These
> > > > > > changes in memory map should be notified to other interested modules
> > > > > > so that the allocated memory does not get overwritten. Add an event
> > > > > > handler in the EFI memory module to update the EFI memory map
> > > > > > accordingly when such changes happen. As a consequence, any 
> > > > > > subsequent
> > > > > > memory request would honour the updated memory map and only 
> > > > > > available
> > > > > > memory would be allocated from.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Sughosh Ganu <sughosh.g...@linaro.org>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > Changes since V1:
> > > > > > * Handle the addition of memory to the LMB memory map.
> > > > > > * Pass the overlap_only_ram parameter to the efi_add_memory_map_pg()
> > > > > >   based on the type of operation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  lib/efi_loader/Kconfig      |  1 +
> > > > > >  lib/efi_loader/efi_memory.c | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  2 files changed, 35 insertions(+)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is getting complicated and I don't believe it is needed.
> > > > >
> > > > > EFI should not be allocating memory 'in free space' until it starts
> > > > > up. For the very few (if any) cases where it does, it can do an lmb
> > > > > allocation.
> > > >
> > > > EFI memory module is not allocating memory at all now. This patch is
> > > > adding an event handler for updating the EFI memory map, whenever the
> > > > LMB memory map changes. All the EFI allocations are now being routed
> > > > through the LMB API's.
> > >
> > > OK
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As to the lmb allocations themselves, EFI can simply call look through
> > > > > the lmb list and call efi_add_memory_map_pg() for each entry, when it
> > > > > is ready to boot. There is no need to do it earlier.
> > > >
> > > > So in this case, I believe that rather than adding code in multiple
> > > > places where the EFI memory module would have to get the LMB map and
> > > > then update it's own, I think it is easier to update the EFI memory
> > > > map as and when the LMB map gets updated. Else, we have a scenario
> > > > where the EFI memory map would have to be updated as part of the EFI
> > > > memory map dump function, as well as before the EFI boot. Any new code
> > > > that would be subsequently introduced that might have a similar
> > > > requirement would then be needed to keep this point in mind(to get the
> > > > memory map from LMB).
> > >
> > > That doesn't hold water in my eyes. I actually like the idea of the
> > > EFI memory map being set up before booting. It should be done in a
> > > single function called from one place, just before booting. Well, I
> > > suppose it could be called from the memory-map-dump function too. But
> > > it should be pretty simple...just add some pre-defined things and then
> > > add the lmb records. You can even write a unit test for it.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > This is not an OS file-system kind of an operation where performance
> > > > is critical, nor is this event(LMB memory map update) going to happen
> > > > very frequently. So I believe that it would be better to keep the EFI
> > > > memory map updated along with the LMB one.
> > >
> > > I really don't like that idea at all. One table is enough for use by
> > > U-Boot. The EFI one is needed for booting. Keeping them in sync as
> > > U-Boot is running is not necessary, just invites bugs and makes the
> > > whole thing harder to test.
> >
> > Doesn't that ignore the issue of EFI being re-entrant to us? Or no,
> > because you're suggesting we only update the EFI map before entering the
> > EFI loader, not strictly "booting the OS"? In which case, maybe that
> > does end up being both cleaner and smaller? I'm not sure.
>
> And that is my concern here about having to update the EFI map at
> multiple call points, instead of keeping it updated -- I feel this is
> more prone to being buggy. And to add to this, there might be code
> paths added subsequently which might need an updated EFI map where
> this gets missed. The only downside to the current design is that it
> might be slower since the EFI map gets updated on every change to the
> LMB map. But I am not sure if the LMB map changes are going to be that
> frequent.

I think it is worth exploring doing the conversion from lmb to EFI
once, in one place. We have this syncing problem, to some extent, with
partitions, which automatically update an EFI table when they are
bound. The design of EFI was somewhat confusing from the start, in
that it created its own tables to avoid relying on driver model. We
are still paying the cost of that design decision. If we are saying
that lmb holds the allocations, then it should be in lmb. The EFI ones
should just be a slave to that, in that it should be possible to throw
away the EFI ones and regenerate them from lmb.

Of course that isn't quite where we are today, but I bet it is close.

Regards,
Simon

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