Hi Simon,

On Thu, 19 Sept 2024 at 17:12, Simon Glass <s...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 17 Sept 2024 at 13:55, Sughosh Ganu <sughosh.g...@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 14 Sept 2024 at 20:14, Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.g...@gmx.de> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 9/5/24 10:27, Sughosh Ganu wrote:
> > > > Add a flag LMB_NONOTIFY that can be passed to the LMB API's for
> > > > reserving memory. This will then result in no notification being sent
> > > > from the LMB module for the changes to the LMB's memory map.
> > >
> > > You seem to be using this in patch 3 and 7.
> > >
> > > Please, describe in this patch why you want to be able to suppress
> > > notification.
> >
> > Will add the reasoning behind this flag in the commit message.
> >
> > >
> > > In the EFI context we should use LMB notification to notify the
> > > EFI_EVENT_GROUP_MEMORY_MAP_CHANGE event.
> > >
> > > See chapter 7.1.2 EFI_BOOT_SERVICES.CreateEventEx() in the UEFI
> > > specification.
> >
> > So, do you want me to use the EFI event signaling mechanism for this
> > purpose ? Is my understanding correct ? If so, this will mean that we
> > have an event notification specifically for EFI, and there might be
> > one needed for any other consumers of this event. Currently there
> > aren't any other consumers of the LMB memory map change event other
> > than EFI, but using the U-Boot's event notification mechanism means
> > that the same notification mechanism can be used if there were any
> > additional consumers of this event in the future. In that case, we
> > would have two separate event notifications, one for EFI, and one for
> > non-EFI consumers.
>
> As I have previously said, none of this is necessary.
>
> Essentially all of the EFI setup that is done in U-Boot can be delayed
> until we are actually starting an EFI app.

Can you explain how you plan to deal with EFI variables, the TPM
eventlog, measuring events when tables are added, capsules updates etc
etc, which expect certain EFI services to be up and running?

> The current approach of
> keeping parallel EFI tables everywhere is causing much confusion.

Apart from all of the above the EFI app can return. Which makes all of
the above just a burden

>
> For EFI, it should be enough to read the lmb tables at the end and add
> whatever parallel tables are needed to boot the app.

Yes apart from the fact that LMB has no idea about memory types or permissions.

> We should not
> need to keep things in sync through the life of U-Boot, since:
>
> 1. EFI pool-allocations should use malloc() until the app starts
> 2. EFI page allocations should not be allowed until the app starts
>
> This whole area needs a healthy dose of 'keep it simple'.
>
> Regards,
> Simon

Thanks
/Ilias

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