It does not matter that who built the multiplex software or how it works only RedBack is allowed by contract to do multiplexing. All of the scenarios would require more licenses except those using RedBack.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave S Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:18 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] MvInternet - IBM Licensing Requirement I have seen and used multiplexing software where you specify the number of licenses (ports) to be used. If you assign 10 ports for example, then the 11th user has to wait until a port is freed up. Ideally the requests only take up a few seconds, so the 11th user does not have to wait that long. Under a multiplexing setup, utilizing client-server 100% you might be able to purchase fewer licenses then under a non client server setup. You could have 1,000 actual users for example only consume 200 concurrent licenses at one time with a client-server setup. I have used other software packages (Saleslogix) that require each and every unique user to have a license. >From your email, you seem to hint that Redback is exempt from the IBM licensing scheme, is that correct ? --- D Averch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They U2 OEM Handbook it states: > > "Customers are required to purchase a number of > licenses equal to the > maximum number of concurrent solution users. > > For example, if either third party or in-house > transaction-based > multiplexing software (e.g. Transaction Processing > (TP) Monitor, Web > servers, etc.) or hardware, other than RedBack, is > used in conjunction with > U2, you will be required to purchase the number of > licenses equal to the > actual number of licenses you have used without > multiplexing software." > > Think of this scenario. You have a Web site that is > accessed by over 100 > users at a give time. You would have to have at > least $44,000 worth of > licenses to handle that load versus just around 6 to > 10 web shares with > RedBack. We have not found a lot of companies > running Web sites that want > to gamble that IBM is not going to catch them. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Dave S > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:54 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [U2] MvInternet - IBM Licensing > Requirement > > Can you provide the sentence(s) in the license > agreement that states this ? > --- D Averch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All of the products mentioned here except RedBack > > will VOID your IBM > > concurrent user license requirement. IBM does not > > allow you to use third > > party or in-house multiplexing software. You must > > purchase the number of > > licenses equal to the actual number of licenses > you > > would have used without > > multiplexing software. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Raymond DeGennaro > > II > > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:18 AM > > To: Brown, Rick (brownri) > > Cc: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > > Subject: Re: [U2] MvInternet > > > > At 08:50 -0400 2005/04/14, Brown, Rick \(brownri\) > > wrote: > > >It seems that the MvInternet product is no longer > > available. Is > > >there some transport to get Unibasic or XML > output > > to the web that > > >does not entail spending 16,000 dollars? ... > > MvInternet seemed to be > > >EXACTLY what we wanted. WebWizard (which seems to > > run on that > > >engine) seems way too expensive. > > > > Rick, > > > > Just in case somebody hasn't gotten back to you > yet, > > we offer a whole > > suite of products and the $16k price tag is for > all > > the bells and > > whistles, full source-code distribution, > > maintenance, two days > > on-site training, travel estimates, etc.. I was a > > bit hesitant to > > reply to the list because I didn't want my reply > to > > come off too like > > a sales pitch, but I also didn't want to leave > some > > technical aspects > > open to misinterpretation. > > > > Web Wizard was written to be platform independent > > and to work on top > > of any low-level connection. We have > installations > > running in > > uniVerse, UniData, D3, mv.Base, jBase, PI/Open, > etc. > > and even had a > > few installs on MentorPro back in the early days. > > As for the > > low-level connection, we have installations of Web > > Wizard running on > > top of ViaDuct, mvInternet, Coyote, uvObjects, > > LibertyODBC, our own > > low-level connection, etc.. Also, the next > version > > of our connector, > > which is being seeded to beta testers, will have > > full SSL encryption > > between the web server and database server. > > > > The full version of Web Wizard includes a Web API > > that generates HTML > > and auto-adjusts to WML if the browser is a PDA or > > cell phone, XML > > parsing and generation, the capability to return > > dynamically > > generated Excel Spreadsheets, PDF, RTF, etc. > Since > > the API is > > written in mvBASIC, it makes is very easy to reuse > > your existing > > subroutines, files and dictionaries. Almost > always, > > there is very > > little code migration required. For the people > that > > know HTML, or > > want to have very fine control over the generated > > HTML/XML, CSS and > > scripting there is also a template based approach > so > > you can do > > anything you can do with HTML, even generate > > ECMAScript (aka > > JavaScript) on the fly. > > > > If anybody has any other questions, I'll answer > them > > here, or take it > > to e-mail, whichever the list desires. > > > > Ray > > -- > > > =================================================================. > > | =-=-=-=-=-=-= Eagle Rock Information Systems > Corp > > =-=-=-=-=-=-= | > > | -=-=-=-=-=-=- web and database business > solutions > > -=-=-=-=-=-=- | > > | <http://www.eriscorp.com> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > > |Midwest Regional Office: 815-547-0662 (voice) > > 815-547-0353 (Fax)| > > > =================================================================. > > ------- > > u2-users mailing list > > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > > To unsubscribe please visit > > http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > ------- > > u2-users mailing list > > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > > To unsubscribe please visit > > http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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