David,

I don't have an issue :) I was responding to Bill's comments about the cost of redback. I think redback is great.

I also think IBM haven't really thought through MQ and MQ licence implications properly. If they were to say "iPhantoms use a licence so whatever you do with iPhantoms you can be sure you are licensed correctly" I would feel comfortable; but the current answer from Leroy seems to be "If a user interactive application sends a request and expects a response via MQ then it may be possible to violate your licence". I can think of very few applications which aren't user interactive at some point ... so how do I decide how to licence UV?



Craig

David Jordan wrote:
Hi Craig

I don't follow your issue.  WebShare is the licensing for the client to
access the database server wherever the client is.  The Web Server accesses
UniVerse through the WebShare and consumes the licenses appropriately.

Regards
David Jordan


-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill H. Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2005 4:48 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [U2] IBM Licensing Requirement - MQ Series] {Unclassified}

Craig:

Your right.  I think you can get a webshare site license for $15,000 -
$20,000.  But this doesn't help when you want to provide web services to
multiple clients who have our software on each of their machines because
RedBack is licensed at the dbms end not the web server end.  :-(

Bill


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Bill,


If I figure correctly, a hundred webshares cost $150,000 at

$1,500 per


webshare retail!

my understanding is that each webshare can service 20-25 users and once you buy a certain number of webshares (my memory says 11, but I could be
wrong) you are treated as having an unlimited number of shares.




Craig
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