>From what we have experienced here, the addition of .NET applications on
top of Unidata that replace existing green screen functions is not a
benefit.  Depending on how they are written.  
The users who have been using they older green screens, want them back.
Clicking around .NET screens is not more productive or faster.  

The learning curve for new users is much lower and for the occasional
user the interface is better, but when your dealing with how many orders
a single person can process in one day, and how many phone calls one
person can field in a day, the green screen is the fastest interface.  

The problem is that no one wants to buy a product that looks old.  So
software companies need to update to the latest technology to keep
selling the product.  For new installs I can say that there is a big
advantage to having something that looks new and is easy to learn.  

I guess there is always a trade off when using new technology.  But just
because it's new doesn't mean it's better.


Jeffrey Lettau
ERP Systems Manager
polkaudio

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Randall
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:52 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] uvo.net UvBasic .Net

I whole heartedly agree.   The green screen is the crusher for our
environment.

As far as .Net and Visual Studio go,  I don't think it takes even that
much
effort as having Pick Basic as .Net assemblies to modernize or help
perception, although that would be terrific.  What would be great is
simply
the ability to use U2 components in the .Net environment as easily as
you
can those of other databases.

The biggest headache/difference is that of data awareness.  The current
Visual Studio and much more so in VS 2005 allow you to establish
tables/procedures as predefined datasources that can be linked to
controls.


If we did that,  our U2 environments could be used by the dotnet world
same
as any other database.    That puts us on an equal or closer footing
with
the SQL guys.   Then the other features of U2 (flexible dictionaries,
variable lengths, etc.) are enhancements to be pitched as selling
points.

Seems like a couple of vendors started down that road (most notably RD's
PDP).   Maybe it one day it happens.   

Mike


However my perception is to make PICK more acceptable to younger people
and
look more mainstream.  U2 is hung more for the green screen than for
anything else, it is perceived as archaic even though that is far from
the
fact.

If a Blue Chip company was looking at U2, and the basic code was a .Net
assembly and we could create tables, etc from the Microsoft Visual
Studio it
could be the difference between a sale win or loss.  It could minimise
management wanting to throw U2 out of sites for something more modern as
the
even older RDBMS.

It is the perceptions, not the technicalities that have dropped U2 from
mainstream.

Regards

David Jordan
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