At 18:51 17/01/06 -0800, you wrote:
Tony:
It's amazing how much one constantly fights with the dbms, isn't it? :-)
Way too much is illogical or is segregated between Pick mode, which is 30
years old, and "U" mode, which doesn't work well for Pick like environments.
For instance, in "U" mode something so simple like 'SORT VOC = "[LIST_]"'
fails miserably. :-(
One always has to ask the question, why would IBM and UD make it so
difficult to work in, or move to, this environment? :-)
Waaaaaay back, late '80s, I was trying to get the Unidata blokes out from
under my feet, and the opinion expressed then about the dis-similarity of
UD to vanilla Pick was all to do with Dick and litigation..... so they made
things different, but close, but that seemingly didn't stop Dick.... I
guess UD took a "more stringently different" path with ECLTYPEs "P" and
"U" compared with UV and its different modes, Pick, Information, et
al...., but then again, I wouldn't really know: my 9 years with UV was all
in Pick mode.... I suppose now nobody @ IBM sees any need to unPick, or
more correctly, re-Pick, the current product....
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:02 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] Unidata on XP Lap Top
>
> George Smith wrote:
> > I would like to propose to upper management that we replace
> a single
> > user laptop program using a non-pick database with a Unidata single
> > user system. We would use C# and the uniObjects for the gui
> front end.
> > This would be on about 400 laptops if successful.
> > Anyone doing this and would like comments from the group.
>
> I have Unidata PE on my laptop with XP Pro for
> development/testing with DesignBais and mv.NET, both of which
> can use UO for connectivity. I haven't had any problems -
> outside of being a D3 guy who desperately needs a "U2 for
> Pick Dummies" book. :)
>
> Rather than letting the system auto-start the services, I
> start/stop the environment with a single click on BAT files
> on the desktop. (Provided here on request.) I do this to
> eliminate CPU/memory usage when the environment isn't in use.
> That said, UD only has a modest 15MB RAM footprint and zero
> CPU usage when inactive, so it doesn't interrupt other
> processes anyway - this is probably what you're interested in.
>
> The only other comment I would make is that it might be
> appropriate to get licenses for production systems, rather
> than running on personal/development licenses. I don't
> recall what the actual license text has to say about this.
>
> Side comment: One of these days I wish the MV DBMS Vendors
> would pay attention to requests like this and create "Lite"
> versions of these environments with no BASIC compiler, no
> spooler, no editors, no telnet or serial services, etc. -
> just a low-profile runtime-only that's easy to install and
> use with a GUI client, and for a similar cost. So far I
> think the only candidates we have for this now are Revelation
> OpenInsight and QM.
>
> HTH
> T
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