Agile? The thing about Agile is mimics the real world. It supposed to allows flexibility in the design process and attach a business value to what's going on. That's what really what happens in practicality. I think it all depends on what being developed, as well.
Creating an ERP System from the ground up requires a different kind of skill sets and environment than writing reports to meet end-user-requirements. The more I read on it the more it seems to be getting codified and stricter, which in itself is a paradox, because, as I understand it, Agile is supposed to be what its name means: agile or flexible. Rather than being a strict methodology, Agile should me more of a philosophy. It's the way most U2 shops work, that I've been in. However, it is becoming, itself, more strict from what I read. Ironic! Agile is a reaction to the top-down-hierarchical approach to IT, where the programmers are simply supposed to be "cogs in a wheel", rather than integral to the design and development process. The extreme top-down-hierarchical approach failed in the 70's at XEROX... a famous business case... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Lynch" <sly...@fwdco.com> To: "U2 Users List" <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 5:34:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program Brenda, I did check it out, and it is interesting, but I still wonder if 3 years later, when the business requirements change, if anyone from the original team will a) be there, and b) remember all the intricacies of the design decisions made, and c) be part of the new team to modify the original stuff. Of course, the 'agile' concept does have a 'design' phase, which to me would mean developing the spec from the user's requests, which I write and save so that 3 years later, when I get called back and asked how to change something, I can hit the ground running rather than reading all the code again. I look forward to hearing back from you in a few years on how well this works in the real world! Susan Lynch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Price" <bren...@marketamerica.com> To: "U2 Users List" <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> Sent: 10/14/2009 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program > Well, when our company gets this fully implemented. You can count over > 250 Highlander's Immortals on the list! > > Seriously, check out "agile" and "scrum", it is interesting. > > Brenda L Price > UniVerse Programmer > Rapid Response Team > Market America, Inc. > Greensboro, NC > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- >> boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Susan Lynch >> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:26 PM >> To: U2 Users List >> Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program >> >> Ah, it must be lovely to know that you will live forever and will > never >> become ill or incapable of working... Eventually, if the company does >> not >> go out of business, or their business needs change so much that all >> your >> code is obsolete, somebody else will have to figure out how the system >> works. >> >> A good spec turns into good documentation, which (properly maintained >> through all the ensuing changes to the system for the changing needs > of >> the >> users, of course) is a blessing to the person who follows you. >> >> Sounds like we have at least 2 of Highlander's Immortals on the list! >> ;-) >> >> Susan Lynch >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brutzman, Bill" <bi...@hkmetalcraft.com> >> To: "U2 Users List" <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> >> Sent: 10/14/2009 3:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [U2] Unibasic: Sample Program >> >> >> > >> > John's world is similar to my world here. When I realized that I >> would >> > be the only person reading the specs, I stopped writing to myself. >> At >> > the risk of no longer being a professional dinosaur, I learned that >> some >> > people call it "agile". >> > >> > Check out... Eckhart Tolle's book "The Power of Now". >> > >> > --B >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > U2-Users mailing list >> > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >> > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> U2-Users mailing list >> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
