Sorry - thought you did - no offense intended - should be in the manual.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Noah
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 5:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] CREATE.TRIGGER - Permission denied

  Dave,

If I had access to Unidata, I'd do HELP CREATE.TRIGGER, but I don't. I
thought I could learn something for future reference. Sorry I wasted
your bandwidth.

Charlie

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On 10-18-2010 3:31 PM, Dave Davis wrote:
> HELP CREATE.TRIGGER explains the rules.
>
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> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Noah
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:19 PM
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> Subject: Re: [U2] CREATE.TRIGGER - Permission denied
>
>    Sorry - I misread. However, even if it's Unidata, the same question
> still applies. There does appear to be some disagreement as to whether
> it requires root or just file ownership. What about group? If a user is
> in the same group as the file, would that be sufficient (AIX was the
> Unix I worked on most)? If so, I don't see a problem with that, since,
> depending on the file's permissions, a user probably shouldn't be able
> to do much of anything with the file unless he/she owns it or is in the
> same group.
>
> Charlie Noah
> Charles W. Noah Associates
> cwn...@comcast.net
>
> The views and opinions expressed herein are my own (Charlie Noah) and do
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>
>
> On 10-18-2010 1:46 PM, phil walker wrote:
>> Universe does not require root access to create a trigger. The article
>> refers to Unidata.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
>>> boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Noah
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2010 7:30 a.m.
>>> To: U2 Users List
>>> Subject: Re: [U2] CREATE.TRIGGER - Permission denied
>>>
>>>     I have used Jbase for 12 years, and used Universe for many before
>> that. I
>>> was surprised to learn that Universe requires one to have root access
>> to
>>> create a trigger. Jbase doesn't require that, so I guess I was
>> spoiled. Does
>>> anyone know of any compelling reason why Universe would require it?
>>>
>>> Charlie Noah
>>> Charles W. Noah Associates
>>> cwn...@comcast.net
>>>
>>> The views and opinions expressed herein are my own (Charlie Noah) and
>> do
>>> not necessarily reflect the views, positions or policies of any of my
>> former,
>>> current or future employers, employees, clients, friends, enemies or
>> anyone
>>> else who might take exception to them.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10-18-2010 12:10 PM, Colin Alfke wrote:
>>>> As others have noted you need to login as root to create the
>> trigger.
>>>> We use a program that does the following for each of our triggers
>>>> (UniData on Windows with SB+).
>>>>
>>>> DELETE.TRIGGER filename UPDATE
>>>> DELETE.CATALOG triggerprogram
>>>> BASIC programfile programname
>>>> CATALOG programfile programname FORCE
>>>> CREATE.TRIGGER programfile programname UPDATE
>>>>
>>>> Hth
>>>> Colin Alfke
>>>> Calgary, Canada
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mecki Foerthmann
>>>>
>>>>     Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Today I tried for the first time to create a trigger on Unidata
>>>> (Version
>>>> 5.2 on Solaris) and get this error.
>>>> I have to add we are using SB+ and Avante 9.2 which includes PRC
>> 3.9.
>>>> First time I tried this I actually got an SB+ error (line 200
>>>> something)
>>>> - and when I run it from "true" ECL I just get the message
>> "PERMISSION
>>>> DENIED".
>>>> I even changed the LOGIN VOC entry to bypass SB+ - no luck either.
>>>> The file in question has 777 permissions on Solaris, so this
>> couldn't
>>>> be the problem.
>>>> The subroutine is globally cataloged too and there are no triggers
>> on
>>>> the file already.
>>>> It isn't a DIR file either. Well, I haven't checked that, but all
>> our
>>>> data files are hashed.
>>>> I'll check it tomorrow morning.
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> I know Avante uses triggers for its audit files, so why can't I
>> create
>>>> my own?
>>>> Susan perhaps? Is it your application that stops me?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Mecki
>>>>
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