honestly I don't do a lot of dictionary maintenance. I have each attribute 
defined, and translates to define inter-file associations, but If I need a 
different width/format/heading or unique expression for a query I use the 
FMT/CONV/EVAL keywords and create them on the fly.

On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Boydell, Stuart wrote:

> Quick pop quiz. How do people build and maintain dictionaries?
> 
> I have used Doug's XLr8 tool, SB+ and ED.
> I haven't found one that allows the use of standard revision control systems 
> (meaning anything appearing in Wikipedia's list of revision control systems) 
> out of the box, though Doug's may get there. (interested too, who does use 
> SCM (including SJ+) for their dicts and file creation scripts and other 
> "admin" artifacts?
> 
> Of the three I like using the Xlr8/Eclipse GUI and grid makes for (IMHO) 
> clean, consistent dicts and very easy to look at as opposed to LIST.DICT 
> which in it's original form has to be one of THE most archaic features of the 
> environment. Especially in a 25 x 80 green screen.
> 
> Stuart.
> ________________________________
> From: Symeon Breen
> Sent: 18-Feb-12 21:15
> To: 'U2 Users List'
> Subject: Re: [U2] mvToolbox--digression about why anyone would want 
> telnet-based tools
> 
> I seriously believe most MV people are not programming in ED on telnet (or
> ssh)   and that they are using some form of GUI editor.
> 
> Personally I know a lot of programmers in multiple disciplines - nearly all
> of them have eclipse installed, not one of them uses it as an ide. There are
> so many much much better environments for java or .net, or php etc.  The BDT
> is eclipse based and that is a throwback to the IBM days. Please people look
> beyond eclipse there is a much bigger wider (and easier) world out there.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Averch
> Sent: 18 February 2012 02:48
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: Re: [U2] mvToolbox--digression about why anyone would want
> telnet-based tools
> 
> Whether we are talking about Telnet that uses port 23 or UniObjects that
> uses or 31438 or HTTP that uses 80, it not the port that is the problem.
> It is not the way packets are transported or what overhead each different
> protocol has.  The fact remains for me it is the presentation.
> 
> Why do you think the new Metro interface from Microsoft is used "...in order
> to create a unified and distinctive look across it consumer product and
> services."  It is the presentation that catches our eye.
> 
> When you are programming with the Telnet interface screen running behind
> whatever you are using for an editor, then you will catch someone's eye but
> not in good way.  You can couch it with this runs faster, or you are more
> productive, or it's simple to use: it does not really matter. They have seen
> that editor does not that elegance.
> 
> When I fire up Eclipse they notice I have a real workbench with menu bars,
> tool bars, different perspectives, views, and status bars.  My screen looks
> like a real editor because it is a real editor that Java developers, PHP
> developer, C developers, C++ developers, and now U2 programmers use.  I have
> built in Search.  I have built in Version control.  I have built in the
> ability to have two different accounts open.  I have the ability see my
> variables and internal subroutines.  I can close those subroutines by click
> on the minus and opening up with a plus.  I can double click on a variable
> and see on the ruler bar where it is used throughout the program.
> 
> The least understood feature I cannot live without anymore is continuous
> compile.  I no longer wait to compile my program to see what typos I make,
> Universe and Unidata compiler are telling me while I type.
> If fail to assign a value to a variable, I know as I'm typing.  This alone
> is worth the price of admission.
> 
> That perception is what I've been preaching about for years.  It can impact
> you as the developer or it can impact the entire organization.
> 
> Regards,
> Doug
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